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    FWIW - i'm interested to know how you sync'd to a live orchestra ?

    Pat - you can't just push play on a DAT player to a live orchestra as it will no doubt eventually go out of time and look shit.

    Andy - was it completely triggered live, in separate sections ? Or midi triggered perhaps ?
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    I'd probably try and do something like a theatre lighting setup where you have all of your scenes defined, and these are 'bumped' manually on the musical cues.

    In LivePro or something this would be easy enough to achieve once you've built each cue if you can simply advance to the next cue on the page with a keypress.

    Actually, if you set the page to advance on beat, then manually generate the beat, this would have the desired effect. Probably just one of many ways to do it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by norty303 View Post
    I'd probably try and do something like a theatre lighting setup where you have all of your scenes defined, and these are 'bumped' manually on the musical cues.

    In LivePro or something this would be easy enough to achieve once you've built each cue if you can simply advance to the next cue on the page with a keypress.

    Actually, if you set the page to advance on beat, then manually generate the beat, this would have the desired effect. Probably just one of many ways to do it....
    You need an operator with a good sense of hearing to do that. Luckily, people who are blind have a heightened aural sense, so I'm sure there were plenty to be found in the vicinity

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    "Pat - you can't just push play on a DAT player to a live orchestra as it will no doubt eventually go out of time and look shit."

    if you want me to pick apart the performance artistically it was out of sync in places. Let him tell you how he syncs it to the orchestra right after he tells you how he makes his lasers eyesafe. It was a 3 minute track of "wigglie stuff" there was no tight choreography as in some guy singing the "abc's and each letter was in perfect timing. IMHO. It was a great show...just a tad dangerous for my liking thats all.

    off topic and a diversionary tactic.

    Explain audience scanning safely with this.

    "The lasers there are 4 x 1w RGB and 2 x 1w green. Yes I know they look more like 10+ watts. I was standing there next to the camera at that event thinking the lasers looked too low power."
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokeAndMirrors View Post
    You need an operator with a good sense of hearing to do that. Luckily, people who are blind have a heightened aural sense, so I'm sure there were plenty to be found in the vicinity
    agree, may be he could hire previous audience members for operators....

    (ok now everybody harp on my ass for making a very properly timed JOKE...it is a JOKE...that is all it is...a JOKE...did I mention it was a JOKE...NO, In all reality...that was a JOKE...get it LOL. HUMOR, PUN, Im sure no previous audience members have bee blinded by his shows...it was a joke)
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    Quote Originally Posted by andyf97 View Post
    Pat,

    You have a history of anti social behavior with quite a few members of this and other forums, so you are not worth time spent on the keyboard. Hope you understand why I am not vaguely interested to have childish arguments with you, your word games don't work with me as simply I am not interested in any thing you have to say until it becomes constructive.
    a psychologist who performs laser shows, now there's a twist. Nice diversion and topic avoidance.

    there is no argument...its just me calling bullshit and you having no verifiable retort.

    dont take it so personally, if you have cornered the market on unicorn glitter you should sell it and become a billionaire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman532 View Post

    Explain audience scanning safely with this.

    "The lasers there are 4 x 1w RGB and 2 x 1w green. Yes I know they look more like 10+ watts. I was standing there next to the camera at that event thinking the lasers looked too low power."
    It could be done as follows: 1W RGB, lets say 700mW after aperture.
    BAM at 30% power for row 1-10, so for the simplicity lets say 200mW in this zone.
    minimum distance between laser and front row 10 meters.

    With above example you would not exceed the limits by a huge factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman532 View Post
    agree, may be he could hire previous audience members for operators....

    (ok now everybody harp on my ass for making a very properly timed JOKE...it is a JOKE...that is all it is...a JOKE...did I mention it was a JOKE...NO, In all reality...that was a JOKE...get it LOL. HUMOR, PUN, Im sure no previous audience members have bee blinded by his shows...it was a joke)
    Oi! It was MY joke goddamit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman532 View Post
    dont take it so personally, if you have cornered the market on unicorn glitter you should sell it and become a billionaire.
    I'm sorry but unicorn glitter is forbidden in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mccarrot View Post
    I'm sorry but unicorn glitter is forbidden in the US.
    I'm sure you can apply for a variance if you can prove the average intensity of a sparkle is below 100 lumens.

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    You need an operator with a good sense of hearing to do that.
    I disagree, you just need someone who knows the piece, has rehearsed at what point the next cue is due, and have their brain connected to their finger on the space bar... LX's do it day in day out in theatre land, and most of them aren't blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norty303 View Post
    I disagree, you just need someone who knows the piece, has rehearsed at what point the next cue is due, and have their brain connected to their finger on the space bar... LX's do it day in day out in theatre land, and most of them aren't blind.
    So you didn't spot the set-up for my totally awesome joke then?

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    *facepalm*

    And here's me trying to have a serious thread!

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    Don't want to take this thread off course, but offhand what camera are you using ? I'll be in the market soon for one with capturing laser shows in mind. With my older nikon I find it over-saturates very easily, and doesn't quite keep up with the scan rate.

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    less QQ more pew pew

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