lds pro questions

[badger1666]

hi
a couple of lds pro questions
1, raytrix web site mentions laser video, is it buried in the software somewhere
i cant find it ?
2, is there any document on how to setup the live touch screen side of things ?
as i have looked and cant find anything,
i want to set it up with a selection of frames for live jamming,ie just touch the frame i want
and mess with the sliders, kind of like what you would do with an fb3 and quickshow
i tried loading one of the lds live shows too but the touch screen panels
dont show what the frame is just the default touch me screen
3, are there anymore rts /sfx files available for lds pro ?

thanks

[drlava]

Hi,
1) the rastervideo playback can be done by adding the 'RasterFrame' block to the timeline. It grabs frames from the screen from a media player and rasterizes them. Look under scanner setting ScanParameter tab to adjust the ColorShift (For raster frames) and tweak this for your scanners till it looks the best.

2) when you load the live shows for the first time, open the touchscreen panel and move it to the side. Hit play, make sure the preview screen is still open and then on the touchscreen panel hit 'create all bitmaps'. Many of the bitmaps will be created, for those that aren't click the button and when the preview reaches a view you like, press 'Screenshot Small' and on the touchscreen controller press 'copy bitmap from Clipboard'. When you are satified with the bitmaps on the buttons click 'save images' then save your .rtd show file. The next time you close and open realtime the bitmaps will be preloaded and ready to go. To create your own touchscreen effects, you must put the touchscreen control panel in edit mode by clicking 'edit keys' then when you click each button it will be editable.

3) The rts effects are in the rts folder, there are about 100 of them and a few more are available no the laserfreak website.

[badger1666]

thanks andrew
i found the effects on laser freak, i only found the effects section in the software by accident,as there is no mention of it in the manual i think raytrix could do with updating
the manual,
many thanks for your help with lds so far,its a total brain hurt to learn,but the results
of what can be done with it are totaly awesome
regards
chris

[badger1666]

Hi,
1) the rastervideo playback can be done by adding the 'RasterFrame' block to the timeline. It grabs frames from the screen from a media player and rasterizes them. Look under scanner setting ScanParameter tab to adjust the ColorShift (For raster frames) and tweak this for your scanners till it looks the best.

2) when you load the live shows for the first time, open the touchscreen panel and move it to the side. Hit play, make sure the preview screen is still open and then on the touchscreen panel hit 'create all bitmaps'. Many of the bitmaps will be created, for those that aren't click the button and when the preview reaches a view you like, press 'Screenshot Small' and on the touchscreen controller press 'copy bitmap from Clipboard'. When you are satified with the bitmaps on the buttons click 'save images' then save your .rtd show file. The next time you close and open realtime the bitmaps will be preloaded and ready to go. To create your own touchscreen effects, you must put the touchscreen control panel in edit mode by clicking 'edit keys' then when you click each button it will be editable.

3) The rts effects are in the rts folder, there are about 100 of them and a few more are available no the laserfreak website.

lds touch panel .
hi andrew
i found some time to play with software ,i did as you said above but all i get is
blank black panels
as soon as i hit create
bitmaps the preview screen plays through all the live sections really fast and thats it
any idea whats up
thanks

[drlava]

The show has to be playing and the preview window open and viewable on the screen for it to capture the bitmaps automatically. If you can't figure that out it's no big loss because really the best way is to use the manual 'screenshot small' method described above for the button image, that way you can choose the point in time of the effect that is best representative for the button image.

[kl79]

If you want, I can give you my .img, for live0 to live 5 and live max (lds2008 version, but I think it's the same)

Dr lava,Some weeks ago, I have send you a mail via Ebay, have you received it ?

[dstar]

If you can read german, think i have some tutorials.

You can also read the better manuals of phoenix pro.
Not all funktions are the same in LDS, but 95% is OK

[drlava]

If you want, I can give you my .img, for live0 to live 5 and live max (lds2008 version, but I think it's the same)
Dr lava,Some weeks ago, I have send you a mail via Ebay, have you received it ?

If you could send the .img for these that would be great, I will include it in the distribution and also make one for 6.

I searched my emails just now for 'kl79' but did not see anything. Is there another way I can track it down, what is your ebay ID?

[kl79]

what is your ebay ID?

Mickael79

I will send a PM, will be better

[badger1666]

If you want, I can give you my .img, for live0 to live 5 and live max (lds2008 version, but I think it's the same)

Dr lava,Some weeks ago, I have send you a mail via Ebay, have you received it ?

hi kl79 that would be cool if i can have the .img files
for live, do you know if there is any documents for the live (touch screen)and dmx control
as there is nothing in the manual ,and as a noob to lds cant seem to work it out
i did try dr lavas way with every thing open and viewable but i still could not get it to work
the create bitmaps button does say under constuction on it so might not work fully.

does anyone know what dmx equipment i need to buy to control the live section ?
and a rough guide to setup as there is no guide as to what dmx channels the sliders
work on
many thanks for any help you can give

email for img files green 1666 @ blueyonder . co . uk
(just remove the spaces)

thanks

[badger1666]

hi any tutorials wellcome
i cant read german but i could run them through translator
thanks
chris

If you can read german, think i have some tutorials.

You can also read the better manuals of phoenix pro.
Not all funktions are the same in LDS, but 95% is OK

[dstar]

Ok, send me your email with PM, i will see what i find.

First look here: http://download.phoenix-showcontroll...HOENIX-PRO.zip
and here http://www.phoenix-showcontroller.de...ort/tutorials/
Most are the same.

I think midi hardware is the better way for livecontrol.
With the Keybord fast select for section - faders/rotarys for additional Effekt.

But you can use also any dmx slider if you dac (easylase/Riya) has DMX Input onboard.
Additional USB-DMX Interfaces will not work.

Sorry for my crap english...i hope you understand what i mean.

Edit: you can also come with problems for lds @laserfreak.net http://www.laserfreak.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=18
Use the german forum!! Not all read in english section.
The most users can you help also in (broken)english. ;-)

[badger1666]

hi christian
i dont know if you got my email or not ,the first time i send it comes back
second time mayby ok , but just incase i also copy and paste here
Many thanks for your email,
Yes I mean real trance
I like most of it, but not so much eurotrash I asked as I am not so good at making shows, but good at building projectors , I think I have lds 2010 ? It by raytrix, I got it from dr lava on pl as a package, it just said lds pro and riya multibus dac.
I think the show you mentioned is included, I will look and give it a try Many thanks for your help
Regards
Chris

ps would be greatfull for any links to where i might find a free or cheap shows wellcome
or any lds info , plus i will join laserfreak forum

If you can read german, think i have some tutorials.

You can also read the better manuals of phoenix pro.
Not all funktions are the same in LDS, but 95% is OK

[kl79]

I think midi hardware is the better way for livecontrol.
With the Keybord fast select for section - faders/rotarys for additional Effekt.
. ;-)

Have you try it ? if yes, can you give us a name of a "compatible" keybord ? (novation may be ?)

[kl79]

here are the .img for the live touch screen (just put them on the shows\live rep)
sure, you can improve them.
Live.rar

[badger1666]

here are the .img for the live touch screen (just put them on the shows\live rep)
sure, you can improve them.
Live.rar

thanks man they work great

[dstar]

Hi,

ok, i try a little workaround for midi change.
Hope you understand me ;-)

1.) you must make some Eventlines under the complete Live-Show.
Rotate, Scale, Move, Colorchange etc. (img1)

2.) Edit this Event. You must specify the lowest and the highest desired Value. (img2)
Carefully for Movements!

3.) Now you can select Pichweel, Variables and Midi-Notes. The Number is the selectet Channel. (img3+4)
Im not sure, what are the correct - "Var" or "Midi" for more Fader. I have not controller at time. But i think Var(xx) is ok.

4.) Set "type of animation" to expression.

5.) at last, you need a software midi-patcher (midiox or other)
This tool can patch your Fader to other midi channels (1-127).

Hopefully I remember correctly

[dstar]

Have you try it ? if yes, can you give us a name of a "compatible" keybord ? (novation may be ?)

I think every (USB) midi hardware will work.
If you have problems, check first your midi settings in windows.

[badger1666]

Hi,

ok, i try a little workaround for midi change.
Hope you understand me ;-)

1.) you must make some Eventlines under the complete Live-Show.
Rotate, Scale, Move, Colorchange etc. (img1)

2.) Edit this Event. You must specify the lowest and the highest desired Value. (img2)
Carefully for Movements!

3.) Now you can select Pichweel, Variables and Midi-Notes. The Number is the selectet Channel. (img3+4)
Im not sure, what are the correct - "Var" or "Midi" for more Fader. I have not controller at time. But i think Var(xx) is ok.

4.) at last, you need a software midi-patcher (midiox or other)
This tool can patch your Fader to other midi channels (1-127).

Hopefully I remember correctly

hi christian

being a total noob to midi , i am having problems

i have a korg nano kontrol, if i just load a live show and play any panel
my korg does kind of work it as it is ,ie knob 1 and slider 9 control the x,y position
another slider will control rotation ect, this does the same to any live show i play.
but i can find nothing in the live shows that sets this up ,so where in lds is it getting this control information for my korg nano to have an effect on the show ?

i have also tried to do as you explained in this thread to do my own live show
i have midi ox ,and it reading my controller ok, but dont know how to patch it to the lds software
is there a setting page in lds i am missing ?
setting up a controller in pangolin quick show i easy as it has a learn function
shame lds does not life would be easier
what i want to do is for example is setup my controller so slider 1&2 control x&y size,
slider 3&4 control x&y position, slider 5 control speed ect ect.
would setting up a dmx controller be any easier ?
hope you can help

regards
chris

[dstar]

You must look in midiox what your Hardwareslider is.
Example:´in midiox this sliderchannel you can patch from 1 to 127.
In LDS select this channel from midiox. The Number you must self insert.
Check in windows the system midimapper - midi-input must your device or midiox.

[dstar]

Ahh, and i forgot - you must set the Typ od Animation to Expression!
And for Speedchange -Timecode source must be "Live"

It is for a long time ago that I used lds for it.

[badger1666]

Ahh, and i forgot - you must set the Typ od Animation to Expression!
And for Speedchange -Timecode source must be "Live"

It is a long time, i use LDS for live...

thanks
christian
i will give it a go.
but i still dont get that when i load a live show its working with my controller
and i can find nothing as to why it is , nothing in the lives shows has anything mapped to midi as far as i can see ,all the boxes are blank ?? and things like my mouse
controls the speed ,again cant see why ??

thanks
chris

[badger1666]

hi here's a screen shot of midiox with slider one one my controller
so what data would i need to use in lds ?

[badger1666]

hi i found it

i have to use midi from the list ,see pic ,midi 2 = slider 1 on my controller
so i just use the midi cc numbers for my controller

just need to work out how to create a multi section time line and make my own live show

and how would you asighn live speed to a controller ??

[dstar]

Here is a litle example file, but no midi (have no controller at time)
have switch the expression to slider 2 - (make DMX input off!)
For midi control try also var(127). Remember me, this is better for sliders...i think ?!?

If you will take the effekt only to selected Frame-Timeline, you can go to properties and make a choice.

For channel mapping in midiox look here: http://organs.110mb.com/MIDI-OX.htm