Announcement: New laser show software available: Procedural dynamic frames, Much More

[Guido]

Hi Drlava,


first Look: Nice Start...second Look: much to do for you:

After 1.5 Years converting LDS to Dynamics i am nearly finished clearing all Bugs from Lennart.
Think you also found new ones. Biggest Problem is the World/Scanpar/Effect Handling.

About the Hardwarecontroll of JMLaser - Products: There is no Way to "pay in".
The Code was made from me and it only controlls JMLaser Hardware because i noticed that i
get Timing-Problems with small Frames if i use different Manufacturers.

And because i also programmed Parts of the Firmware i know who is faulty if something goes wrong :-)

Only in this Way Dynamics can Show a 1-Scanner Show on up to 20 Netlases without Delyas you can see.
And Every Card can be Setup in Size, Offset, Colorcontroll with Gamma-Curve, Inverting, Swapping,
Channel-dividet Colorshift and so on....

Next Level is C4Dynamics: A PlugIn for C4D starting at R12 with RealTime Output incl. Hidden Line Calc.
Should be finished in about 6-8 Weeks...

Hope you have much fun and Success with this Soft. Only after looking in the Code you can see
what is possible with this Soft ( Animator -> Types of Animation as Expression -> Control Standart Animator
live by DMX, Mouseposition, Scripting, own Math, Wave or what ever...

About the new Effects: The Abstract with modulation of the RGB-Lines is all, but not new.
Didnt see Changes to LDS but i only have 30min spend in Testing..

Greetings
Guido
www.mylaserpage.de

[Solarfire]

Well I’ve been messing around with my demo for about 3 days now and there’s lots of potential here, good bang for the buck. Want to see some output now.

I see a Medialas driver in the root directory there ”MLUSBDrv.mld” If the driver supports the Medialas USB Hyperport DAC dose it, or will it also support the DMX interface, integrated in the Hyperport?

Is there a way to real-time view the abstract generator on the PC monitor while changing settings?

It would be a nice feature if channels of the generator could be acoustically modulated via an adjustable (in amplitude and cut off frequency) software low pass filter of the sound track.

@drlava

Nice job so far, looking forward to getting my order so I can get some output going here!

[drlava]

Hi Drlava,

first Look: Nice Start...second Look: much to do for you:

*snip* little advertisement *snip*

Hope you have much fun and Success with this Soft. Only after looking in the Code you can see
what is possible with this Soft ( Animator -> Types of Animation as Expression -> Control Standart Animator
live by DMX, Mouseposition, Scripting, own Math, Wave or what ever...

About the new Effects: The Abstract with modulation of the RGB-Lines is all, but not new.
Didnt see Changes to LDS but i only have 30min spend in Testing..

Hi Guido, nice of you to drop by. I think we have taken a different development approach to extending LDS. You removed support for laser controllers other than easylase, and focused on easylase support. I took a different approach and maintained broad support, and focused on increasing the software's ability to create art, and on making the user interface faster and easier to use. It it true, originally, LDS would have trouble controlling many types of interfaces at once, but I have solved this by now, and will extend support more in the future. By the way, if you think the new effects are not new, I think you've missed something All LDS users I have shown this to have been every happy with all the new features and quick to updrade.

Well I’ve been messing around with my demo for about 3 days now and there’s lots of potential here, good bang for the buck. Want to see some output now.

I see a Medialas driver in the root directory there ”MLUSBDrv.mld” If the driver supports the Medialas USB Hyperport DAC dose it, or will it also support the DMX interface, integrated in the Hyperport?

It's a driver for a medialas USB DAC. Whether it's the 'Hypertransport dac' or not, I don't know. if you send me the .mld driver for your hypertransport DAC, I could test and integrate that.

Is there a way to real-time view the abstract generator on the PC monitor while changing settings?

Yes, while you're editing or creating a show, use the play/edit mode and pause it and you can edit the events and see the results of your edits and event additions instantly in laser and in the preview window. This goes for animations, abstracts, and everything.

It would be a nice feature if channels of the generator could be acoustically modulated via an adjustable (in amplitude and cut off frequency) software low pass filter of the sound track.

Nice job so far, looking forward to getting my order so I can get some output going here!

You can do something similar to this right now. After a song is processed in the audio window, you can use the waveform data in the expression animator to create motion and other effects. It is not spectrum specific, but that is coming.

[allthatwhichis]

You can do something similar to this right now. After a song is processed in the audio window, you can use the waveform data in the expression animator to create motion and other effects. It is not spectrum specific, but that is coming.

This brings up an interesting question; I have been wanting to use the wave form from a song in a programed show, basically just like an O-scope. I can't seem to find a way to do it in Showtime for the QM2000. The only way I can project the waveform is with the Winamp plugin. Is this possible with LSX?

[yobresal]

Looks Good Doc! Just ordered myself the lite to and a Riya to control my RGB in the garage. Should make for some fun.

[absolom7691]

I too am interested in acquiring a qm version. Because I have LD2000 intro, I would like to get a really bitchin abstract generator.

Eagerly waiting for this!

[aijii]

Do you have any plans to extend the live interface ?

[kl79]

There is already some change to the "live page", but one who interest me is a "strobe" fonction, is that possible ? (yes you need to remove another function to do that and keeping only 16 dmx ways...)

[drlava]

This brings up an interesting question; I have been wanting to use the wave form from a song in a programed show, basically just like an O-scope. I can't seem to find a way to do it in Showtime for the QM2000. The only way I can project the waveform is with the Winamp plugin. Is this possible with LSX?

This had been something on my todo list, so guess what.. I just did it and so the answer is yes. You can do more than a o-scope, the waveform data can be applied in many ways, like coloring as well.

Looks Good Doc! Just ordered myself the lite to and a Riya to control my RGB in the garage. Should make for some fun.

Thank you, shipping soon!

Do you have any plans to extend the live interface ?

yes, more pages for one thing, but it's very 'extensible' if you know what you're doing, for example:

There is already some change to the "live page", but one who interest me is a "strobe" fonction, is that possible ? (yes you need to remove another function to do that and keeping only 16 dmx ways...)

You can implement a strobe functionality without another slider in the main interface, and this strobe functionality can be applied to every queue. Use the 'intensity' event and set its expression to: "sin(time/70*dmx(17))", this can be done to strobe the brightness of playing queues at a rate determined by one of the DMX channels beyond the 16 default sliders. Replace sin with sqr2 if you want sharp strobing with adjustable duty cycle. If one doesn't have dmx input, they can use the 16 auxiliary sliders available, or a MIDI control interface. Pretty slick, no?

[kl79]

You can implement a strobe functionality without another slider in the main interface, and this strobe functionality can be applied to every queue. Use the 'intensity' event and set its expression to: "sin(time/70*dmx(17))", this can be done to strobe the brightness of playing queues at a rate determined by one of the DMX channels beyond the 16 default sliders. Replace sin with sqr2 if you want sharp strobing with adjustable duty cycle. If one doesn't have dmx input, they can use the 16 auxiliary sliders available, or a MIDI control interface. Pretty slick, no?

Easy ^^, I will do that.

One other improvement I fund...that's pretty idiot but now it's working, the "open and play" button is now functionnal ! (before it was not searching to the right folder..)

[liteglow]

I installed it on my computer, start LSX RealTime.exe ... wait.. wait... nothing happens.
The mouse icon load for 2-3 seconds.. that it stop and it dont start.

I have WIN7 64bit 4gb ram 4core prosessor...

why ?

[drlava]

Ok, thank you for the info, PM sent.

[flecom]

You can do something similar to this right now. After a song is processed in the audio window, you can use the waveform data in the expression animator to create motion and other effects. It is not spectrum specific, but that is coming.

laser color organ! awesome

would be cool if you could pick parts of the spectrum, so you could separate out the bass hits, beats, other stuff etc

[Solarfire]

I installed it on my computer, start LSX RealTime.exe ... wait.. wait... nothing happens.
The mouse icon load for 2-3 seconds.. that it stop and it dont start.

I have WIN7 64bit 4gb ram 4core prosessor...

why ?

Is it the demo or full version? I'm running the demo on Win7 64bit 8gb ram 6 core processor with no issues so far but that's without hardware installed (DAC). I have had other issues in the past with USB drivers for the 64bit platform.

[liteglow]

Is it the demo or full version? I'm running the demo on Win7 64bit 8gb ram 6 core processor with no issues so far but that's without hardware installed (DAC). I have had other issues in the past with USB drivers for the 64bit platform.

It`s the demo.
I have Mamba Black and Easylase ..

[Solarfire]

It`s the demo.
I have Mamba Black and Easylase ..

I have Mamba 2.51 with a Medialas USB Hyperport DAC which is recognized in the demo as such. Are you starting the demo with hardware connected? If yes make sure you have the most current DAC driver installed in the root directory of the demo.

[liteglow]

i got an updated Demo

it all works now !


But ohh.. there is to much to check out right now !
I need more time to find out how to use this, seems pretty well great with allot of functions.
But I still have not figure out how I make my own show with the .ild that I have on disk !

[drlava]

The very first tip that pops up when you run the software states "To load an ILDA file, simply drag it onto the timeline." This will create an animation event for you. Then load the song mp3 using the audio settings (looks like a note). Then stretch the animation event out to fill the timeline and set the 'picture animator' at the bottom to frame-by-frame (assuming the ilda is points-oriented). Then, hit play! There are a few tweaks that can be done to fix up timing if necessary, but that's a discussion for another thread. Feel free to ask here:
http://lasershowforums.com/index.php

[DieBoard]

Maybe a stupid question but what will perform better with this software a soundcard dac or riya multibus lite controller.

After reading here and there it seems to me that this software will give allot for a few bucks. You can make original shows/effects which cost allot of effort/knowledge but if all people (can) do the same show with a few clicks then where is the fun of it.

What are the requirements to run the software smooth on a PC? For mobility i want to use it on a 1,5gGHz laptop or is that to slow?

If you want to design shows on your pc and check the result on your laptop what are the options?

- LDS dongle and swap dongle between systems
- RIYA serial and swap DAC between systems

[aijii]

Hey,

Any plans to support the Showtacle Moncha.Net board ?

Cheers,

Adrian

[mixedgas]

[QUOTE=DieBoard;193821]Maybe a stupid question but what will perform better with this software a soundcard dac or riya multibus lite controller.

After reading here and there it seems to me that this software will give allot for a few bucks. You can make original shows/effects which cost allot of effort/knowledge but if all people (can) do the same show with a few clicks then where is the fun of it.

END QUOTE


Yes, the "string of beads" technique used in the "A few clicks" software, which I assume you are referring to Panglin's "Quickshow" is rapid, and it has its merits. It also has limitations. Its really set up for Dance Party/Raves or simple synced shows.

LSX is far more capable when you really need to program a serious timed, multitrack show. That will arrive sooner then you think if you are serious about lasers.

Because the sound card dac data stream can be redirected with a virtual device, there are limitations on what included show content you can access with one on LSX. This is reasonable considering how time consuming and expensive it is to create content. Pangolin has a similar policy with their included content.

If you have the sound card dac with LSX, you can use all the creative tools, but you will have restricted access to the included shows. You can still create anything you like, there are no restrictions on the creativity suite. You also can still trade shows you and others have created. You can still save your work to ILDA format etc. This is to prevent simple piracy as there is a difference between distribution rights and outright ownership of the included content.

Honestly, having had a role in the development of the sound card dac, they can be less then reliable, often unstable, and you would be better off with even the tiny RIYA or another supported device. SCDs have had their purpose, but as costs are coming down on more professional or open source hardware, its time for them to fade to black.

I'm sure Dr Lava will be along to clarify my answer to this question.

Steve

[drlava]

Maybe a stupid question but what will perform better with this software a soundcard dac or riya multibus lite controller.

After reading here and there it seems to me that this software will give allot for a few bucks. You can make original shows/effects which cost allot of effort/knowledge but if all people (can) do the same show with a few clicks then where is the fun of it.

What are the requirements to run the software smooth on a PC? For mobility i want to use it on a 1,5gGHz laptop or is that to slow?

If you want to design shows on your pc and check the result on your laptop what are the options?

- LDS dongle and swap dongle between systems
- RIYA serial and swap DAC between systems

Hi, the RIYA will give you better performance and fewer headaches too, with default sound card positioning.
Also, most of the newer sound card DACs have a channel timing skew that can be problematic.

I agree, it IS a lot of software for a few bucks It will run on your 1.5gHz laptop fine for one and most two DAC shows, but you might have to close the preview window while playing multi-DAC shows if your laptop doesn't have accelerated opengl and it loadsdown the CPU too much. My single core 2GHz mobile pentium IBM t43p can run 3 and 4-DAC shows with the preview open, for reference.

yes, the options that you list are correct. Also, you can get a dongle from me at cost, $30, if you don't have an LDS one.

Hey,

Any plans to support the Showtacle Moncha.Net board ?

Cheers,

Adrian

Yes, they were supposed to send a dev board out to me months ago but it hasn't materialized yet. If you have some you want to send maybe we can make a deal.

...
Steve

I guess what should be clarified is that having a sound card DAC does not restrict your access to shows in any way, the only stipulation is that protected content cannot be played on the sound card DAC. If you have a sound card DAC AND a RIYA, you could use them at the same time to play unprotected dual-head shows, and you could use the RIYA to play the protected ones.


EDIT: post 2000! woohoo.

[yobresal]

Got my Riya and software yesterday. I am going to need some time to figure it out. I cannot get the pre-loaded shows to play or LSX realtime. I go to C:LSX:show: then double click to open one. After that I get this window and I cannot write in it. All I can do is press OK and then it goes away and nothing comes up.
Any clues? Same exact thing appears trying to open up realtime

[drlava]

Hi, great. Press the copy code to clipboard button and email me the code, along with your RIYA ID # (found in riya setup app) and I'll send you the activation and further instructions. Please PM me with questions, or feel free to use lasershowforums.com

[yobresal]

Perfect! Thanks for the fast response.