BEYOND code scripts

[smokeAndMirrors]

Has anyone managed to get their heads around the code you can put in the cue start and end events?

I want to do the following: when a cue is selected, instead of just popping up, the cue expands from small to large. When I pick another cue, BEFORE the other cue shows, the currently playing cue contracts to small. This can be done, of course, with 2 cues (expand small to large and expand large to small) but this seems wasteful, not to mention annoying, as I might want to perform this with arbitrary cues during live performance. (The transition feature could be useful to do this with, but there currently doesn't seem to be a way of changing this behaviour per-cue.)

Some example scripts would be useful. I haven't been able to discern if there is any flow control (eg loops) in the scripts.

Also if anyone can figure out the QuickScript tab then let me know because it's not at all obvious!

[norty303]

This worries me greatly because if you can't suss it out, what chance do us mere coding mortals stand!

[masterpj]

I will try to figure it out.
I haven't taken a single look at it.
But will do!

[smokeAndMirrors]

This worries me greatly because if you can't suss it out, what chance do us mere coding mortals stand!

Even code gods like myself need some documentation!

[norty303]

Probably uses funny braces conventions too....

[smokeAndMirrors]

Probably uses funny braces conventions too....

Why {
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Little {
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[White-Light]

I wouldn't get too tied up with it. There will be documentation if its in the final version.

[badger1666]

cant say i have been to deep into the code , no time
i take it you have read the attached doc ?? it's the only thing so far .
so far i only use it to map loads of cue's, cue sequences ,and reset buttons to my midi controller
i will ask alexey thoughts on your post
what version of beyond are you using ?
the txt doc and command list is embedded in beyond 384

[smokeAndMirrors]

Yeah I'm on 384 too.

I have had chats with Alexey in the past regarding an additive cue architecture (a bit like LivePro, but more flexible). He wasn't convinced.

My impression of BEYOND v1 is that - aside from the 3D, which I can't use anyhow because it complains that LD2000.DLL is missing - it's a slightly better Quickshow.

[White-Light]

My impression of BEYOND v1 is that - aside from the 3D, which I can't use anyhow because it complains that LD2000.DLL is missing - it's a slightly better Quickshow.

You've not dug very deep then. There's a vast difference on the creation side. There are additional features elsewhere.

I can only be vague publicly as a lot of the changes may be version 2.0, but whereas the release version 1.0 was only slightly different, since then Beyond has become something far more powerful.

At release I probably wouldn't personally have bought it over QS. Now I definitely would and I would imagine there are a lot more changes to come.

[norty303]

You've not dug very deep then. There's a vast difference on the creation side. There are additional features elsewhere.

I can only be vague publicly as a lot of the changes may be version 2.0, but whereas the release version 1.0 was only slightly different, since then Beyond has become something far more powerful.

So on the one hand you're saying that Julian hasn't dug deep enough, then you go on to say that some of the depth may not be in the current version...

Which is it?

[White-Light]

What I said was things are changing all the time. Several things have been added and removed, and then others added. Who knows what will be in the final version. No doubt when its decided, the documentation will follow.

On the depth pov the ability to create cues is much greater in Beyond.

[smokeAndMirrors]

You've not dug very deep then. There's a vast difference on the creation side. There are additional features elsewhere.

It's probably fair to say I've not spent as much time as I'd like with the software. As far as cue creation is concerned though, as primarily a creator of beam shows, the additional tools are nice, but would not have clinched a purchase. I am prepared to be delightedly wrong in this regard because (a la Rumsfeld) I don't know what I don't know. Documentation and tutorials will presumably open up functionality I might otherwise have to stumble upon.

[smokeAndMirrors]

Well I've just spent a few hours with the creation tools and frankly, apart from the abstract editor and a slightly beefed-up frame editor, I am not seeing anything particularly different from QS. Can someone tell me what I am missing? It doesn't help that it's the same old Cuemania workspace as QS so I can't reverse engineer any of the new features. It's actually quite frustrating.

[badger1666]

there is a lot of extra midi live control features not in qs that i use, i think all the cool stuff will appear when beyond 2.0 is out