Attention Laserscope KTP Owners: GB Feeler for OEM Oven-controller...

[dsli_jon]

Hey there, all you fellow 532-monsters...

Anyone still searching for the 'ideal' replacement for the old 'OEM' Oven Industries 5C5-262 KTP-oven controller, I have negotiated a 'deal' for us-all - (...and no - the 'elsewhere-recommended' SR7-350A is *not* the ideal-replacement for the OEM-unit... the OEM-unit is!

These 'new' units will be known-as the C55-270, and will be 'functionally' and form-factor wise, identical, to the time-tested OI unit, ie:

OI 5C5-262.JPG ..as-found in 100-500-series Laserscopes, which was later functionally-cloned by the 700-800-series 'motherboard', thus, eliminating its' need to LS, and making the 262 an 'end-of-life' product for OI... which was too-bad, cause, as many of you 'converters' know, trying to wrangle the 'MB' into anything useful - worst of all, just for the oven-heater - is a major PITA, at-best...

However, if I can pull-together an order for 10-units (..we will be needing 5, alone...) we can get these 'resurrected' for only $97. USD each (+ actual flat-rate shipping to wherever you are..) - this is much better than the $200-250.+ that many of us paid in years-past, if/when we could even find them...

Please note that this pricing is for the controller *only* (just the 'little gold-box'), However, we (DSLI) can offer a 'full-version' of the controller-assy, w/ the 24V step-down x-frmr, V and Ω test-points, LED 'temp-range indicator' and oven-interface bus, all integrated in a nice, compact package, easily mountable on existing PEMs, inside the LS 7-800 chassis, ie:

LS40_OvnCntrl_v2.jpgLS40_OvnCntrl_v2 inst2.jpg..Price: Quoted upon-request (depends on how-many / how-fast, etc..)

IF, ya'll KTP-peeps wanna do-this, we wanna do this ASAP, cause OI gets busy with projects, and, at other-times, may not be able to offer a 'reasonable lead-time', as they can, right now / the next-few weeks... just 'fyi'...

So... who's in?
j

[danielbriggs]

Toasty.

+1

[stanwax]

+1 here too
You can ship mine and Dans together - PM'd

Rob

[mccarrot]

can you also supply a laserscope with it

[dsli_jon]

can you also supply a laserscope with it

...Why, yes, funny you should ask... http://www.myspace.com/dsli/photos/1...%3A11673893%7D ..tho, I *think* it might be a bit of a 'pinch' for ya on the shipping to ol' Amster...

ie: P'fessor Steve - you wanna check with your Man in St Louis? I assume he, someday, might need to service one of these, and the OEM 262s are just next to near-impossible to find, outside of buying an entire 100 or 500-series, just for parts... not exactly 'efficient'...

Anyhoo, lemme know.. Will post-up 'lead-time', once I get the answer-back from OI..
thx.
j

[dave]

count us in for a couple

[flecom]

I'm not sure if I need this thing? I have to look and see what was doing the temp on my LS table... haven't played with it in a loooong time

[dsli_jon]

Hey Dood -

I'm not sure if I need this thing? I have to look and see what was doing the temp on my LS table... haven't played with it in a loooong time

Welp, if ya don't have / can't find one of these puppies *somewhere* in your chassis / system, Yes, you-want...

Why? Well, the hackster-approach of 'hijacking the motherboard'-method to try and reg the oven is a bugger, because you can't get that section of the MB to perform-properly, unless other-sections of the MB 'see' certain voltages / loads, when the thing is all 'properly' hooked-up... it's a bunch of logic-based checks and balances for the medical-config, which is a major PITA to try and ferret-all out / control (since, some Vs and load-values, can-vary on which rev of the MB it is, etc)...

...not saying it 'can't be done', but, as-with trying to just 'use the MB' to control a LS, it's far, far simpler - and, *safer* / more reliable, imho - to have a 'dumb', hard-wired / soldered, unsophisticatedly-keyswitched analog controller, and this KTP-oven controller perfectly follows-suit to that 'old skool' thinking...

I mean, if someone desires to have a microprocessor-based controller for these, that's fine - I'm just advocating to design / build your *own*, don't try and 'hack' the MB to do it, that's just 'lamegineering' imo...

btw, that was not a rant at you, Frank, just my usual over-punctuated / smiley'd daily ASCIIbarf...

ciao ciao..
j

[flecom]

no I know theres no part of the original laserscope electronics in my setup

[dsli_jon]

no I know theres no part of the original laserscope electronics in my setup

OIC.. Well, like I said, if you can't find one of those gold-boxes, as-shown above, *somewhere* in your rig.. ya prolly ain't gots.. And OI will only build these again in lots of 10, soo.... early Xmas wish-list? No worries either way, just lemme know, if...

ciao ciao...
j

[flecom]

I have a gold box that says "Crystal Technologies Model 1027-25" with a BNC connector, think thats the Q-Switch driver no?

So I guess I don't have anything running my oven? theres also a heatsink full of big resistors, maybe thats what was doing it? cant remember

[dsli_jon]

Heya -

I have a gold box that says "Crystal Technologies Model 1027-25"

Yep, that'd be yer Q-Sw driveroni...

So I guess I don't have anything running my oven? theres also a heatsink full of big resistors, maybe thats what was doing it?

It's certainly possible, if the 'converter-person' did not address that... it's not that you *can't* run the sys, w/O an oven heater, it's just all about maintaining 'stability' / not blowing your x-tal up... I have no idea what your 'resistor-farm' is all-about - maybe an overkilled load-board attempt for the LVPS??

...I'd venure to guess, that when you run it in CW-mode, (..which is usually pretty-unstable, anyway - they don't 'like' being run, CW...) the output 'wavers' a lot, in power - looks like it's 'struggling'? That's what no-oven will get ya, and, certainly, running ovenless, you're at much-higher risk for a soon-cracked xtal, at a min...
The oven-controller / water-jacket, to 'balance' it out, is there for a reason, not just cuz of the 'pretty gold colored-box'....

Again, these are all benefits of buying a sys / DIYing a conversion with advice / direction from someone *with* a clue, vs not.... Something grossly lacking when n00bs buy these off FeeBay for $500. I know you're not in that 'category', and I'd be happy to help ya, if/when yer ready, down the road...

peas...
j

[stanwax]

Jon you know 4 sure im in

Rob

[dsli_jon]

(moved to shipping / tracking, below...)

...anybody else?? This will get emailed-in on Monday... Again, jump-in on this-run, now, or you'll have to order-up your own 10-spot...

Thanks, Gents! Will keep this updated as we get progress from OI...

j

[rszemeti]

How much would shipping to the UK be?

[dsli_jon]

Hi rs..

How much would shipping to the UK be?

For one-unit, Flat-rate should be only about $15. - $18. USD, depending on delivery-conf / ins. options...

...Buut, that's if you still would be interested, after I was a bit of a prick to you in your other thread... Sorry, it's just that I (..and others, here..) tend to be a bit jumpy-on what appear to be 'overstated power-claims'... we've had some rather 'unpleasant LS experiences' with some past-members, and - lord-knows - plenty of frustrating 'marketing-watts' discussions from chinsese OEMs, and the ever-infamous 'Lwerld' But, clearly, you're in neither of those categories, so, my apologies...

So, PM me if you wanna get in on this.. But, if you'd rather just tell me to go piss up a rope, I'll understand...

cheers..
j

[dsli_jon]

k, Kats -

Finally heard-back from OI today, and they have the order 'in the pipeline'... ...they say, 'prolly-by ~end of next week', it will be the 'point of no-return' - that is to-say, they will be done with the board re-printing run, and will start to populate / solder-up, en-route to finalizing / testing, etc... then, I'm guessing, possibly several of their assemblers may be 'out for the holidays', since they are still stating about 4-6 weeks, till ship-ready... ..we'll see, but, point is –
*anyone else wants-in, now's the time*.. udderwise, you gotta order 10+ yerself...

choo-choo..
j

[dsli_jon]

Hope to have an update from OI, soon... have a standing email request in to them to 'please send an 'eta' when-close'.. which has-yet to be answered, so I can only-conclude they're still baking our cookies...

Thanks for hangin-tight, Guys...
j

[dave]

No news is good news... Not in a super rush anyway

[dsli_jon]

No news is good news...

Yes, well... to a point.. They've been a bit too-quiet, for yet-another week.. (..spoke to them last week - which was a week 'over' their orig. deliv. estimate-week - and they said they'd 'send an updated eta-estimate'... insert crickets...) so, I'm gonna set up camp on their heinies in the am, and post an update / eta, asap.. I know no one said they were in an 'urgent need', but ... "6-8 weeks" has been blown, so...

..will try and get some-word, mañana, and an eta...

j

[gashead]

It's ok.. I don't really know what I'm buying anyway.. I just had to have it!

[dsli_jon]

It's ok.. I don't really know what I'm buying anyway..

...Basically, it keeps the KTP xtal in your LS, happier than a pig in...

UPDATE - Well, I guess they 'got my message' from last-week, cause I got a call this am - they've Shipped! Shipped = 'to us', here in Cali, not.. 'we're, now, shipping to you, today', etc

..but for those of you that only ordered the 'raw' controller, soon as they land, here, they will be lovingly-boxed and punted your-way... For those of you that got the 'full' version (see post #1, if ya' somehow fergetted.. ) you'll be waiting a bit longer, since we've got to build those out, yet... won't take *too* long, but, now that the controlers are-done / en-route, I'll be ordering the x-formers, today, and the rest of the vittles are already in-house.. so... I'll update with an eta for those that got 'v2', asap...

Thanks for hangin' tight, Gents!
cheers..
j

[Insanity]

Just keeping track, excited about more laser toyz...

Mark

[gashead]

Ok, now after my "scope teardown" last weekend.. I know what I'm buying amazing how enlightening getting arms deep in Ex medical gear can be!

Now for the installation of a larger incomer into my garage!

Cheers,

N.

[dsli_jon]

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