Laserist in trouble

[Bangman]

Terry owns International Laser Productions (www.internatlaser.com) and has been going through this drama for months now, sounds like it all stems from his ex wife who appears to have some high up contacts in a corrupt system. He,s been deported once, paid some sort of bribe to go back, deported again, paid another bribe to get back. Then they arrest him and his (pregnant) wife, jail them indefinitely (without charges) and the ex wife sells his house to her mate, the retired police general.
I've known Terry since the mid 80's when we had opposing Laser Display company's in a very young industry in New Zealand. The man has worked really hard and creatively to build what he has and it sucks that it could all be taken from him in this way.
I have no idea what anyone can do to solve this but feel that if enough people know and make noise about it then it might come to the attention of someone who can.
Heres a cut and paste of his latest facebook post
The following is a Facebook msg from Terry Green a NZ citizen in jail in Bali he and his pregnant wife are being held on bogus charges indefinitely. The NZ consulate have been of little help....Would someone PLEASE take an interest in this !!

We have had a meeting with a new lawyer...seems more positive than the last ones tbat demand fees upfront n do nothing.
Still in prison day 24. The highlight of the day being when the clock is at 6 matches all the other vertical lines in the place.
New lawyer has promised to follow up asap on all the official complaints we have made in the past 5 months that have Seemingly gone nowhere with this particular gang of police who just happen to be the highest place we can make such complaints in Bali
Our complaints include the assault on Sasha when she was evicted from our home during my questionable deportation at which time she held power of attourney....and the theft of all our personal belongings and chattels from the house All of which we have no idea of thier location to this day.
As for the illegal sale of my property to the retired Police General it seems the agreements I have with Siti Komariah and her lawyer are very valid and she sold our residence fraudulently
As we have known all along.
So here we are in prison charged with breaking into technically our own home.
Other charges include my apparently threatning with a weapon Which is a total fabrication.. My witnesses including a lawyer and journalist who was present at the time have already made their statements supporting my testimony.
What will be next we didnt do the dishes before we were forced to leave !!!
As for MFAT telling me they have no power to interfere with another countries laws... yes we understand that but where do they draw the line when there is an obvious and blatant abuse of law against one of ther citizens... To me it makes them as corrupt as the criminals I am dealing with here.
We have learned there is a new For Sale sign on the property . The new illegal owner who holds us here seems to be trying to evacuate Asap. We have again made a formal request to the land office to block any sale..

24 Hrs ago Sasha was taken back to the Police hospital bleeding profusely and dialated to stage 1 managed to see her last night she is better but has pain from any movement I seriusly think our unborn child will not see life as it is intended to be.
And fear for my wifes health

[Jem]

Weird... I saw this on FB, I believe he's allegedly in prison in Bali. What I find difficult to understand is that he's got free access to a computer (in a jail in Bali) and is able to get this message out, seemingly without it being censored. As I said... Weird. Or, even if he doesn't have access to a computer and we assume it's a written letter, it's still strange that it's not being censored by the very authorities he's accusing.

Assuming what is said is true, I do hope that truth will find a way to show their innocence and show mercy.

[Laser Wizardry]

" 15 characters"

[Bangman]

From what i've been told he has access to an iphone.
Whatever his political views are (or moral standards) he did whatever he had to to get back to his family, home and business.
He's spent the last 25 odd years growing with this industry and has created alot of quality animations and shows that are used by many of us internationally.
As I mentioned in my first post, his was an opposition company to mine. Letting this sort of injustice pass without trying to do something about it potentially puts us all at risk.
I would hope that if it happened to me someone would make some noise about it.

[Pitts]

I have no idea what this is about. True or not.
I do notice that Bangman has two posts and no name on his post.
He states he has been involved here in NZ for many years in opposition to another laser company.
Mmmmmmm interesting.. NZ has a total population of a modest city (about one quarter of LA for eg) how many full time professional laser companies do you think we can support down here ??? Like none is the most likely answer.
Those that have had a long history do many other things than just lasers like AV for eg.
The last company that could even be remotely considered full time shifted to Australia and only maintains a small NZ operation.. The rest of us do what we can where we can... The down side of only 4 million people.

This post just seems a bit odd to me.

Cheers
Ray
NZ

[Bangman]

I have no idea what this is about. True or not.
I do notice that Bangman has two posts and no name on his post.
He states he has been involved here in NZ for many years in opposition to another laser company.
Mmmmmmm interesting.. NZ has a total population of a modest city (about one quarter of LA for eg) how many full time professional laser companies do you think we can support down here ??? Like none is the most likely answer.
Those that have had a long history do many other things than just lasers like AV for eg.
The last company that could even be remotely considered full time shifted to Australia and only maintains a small NZ operation.. The rest of us do what we can where we can... The down side of only 4 million people.

This post just seems a bit odd to me.

Cheers
Ray
NZ

Not sure what your point is Ray.
I know, more than anyone how hard it is to make money from lasershows in NZ.
The fact is that Terry (oh...and me) were doing it as far back as 1987, not so straight forward in the pre internet days.
I'm a lurker not a poster, I didn't think that would be held against me.
If you knew your NZ laser history you would know who Terry is and the work he did to build the local industry that you are involved in today.
I was just trying to help a colleague out.
Maybe I'll go back to lurking.
Barry Korff

[buffo]

Not sure what your point is Ray.

His point is crystal clear. You have not posted much on the forum (only 4 posts total now), so people don't know anything about you. Then you post a story that, on the face of it, appears to contradict Ray's own experience. That's why he voiced his concerns.

This is one of the problems with being a lurker; no one knows who you are. So when your first post to the forum ends up being a very big story, obviously people are going to question you about it. Internet trolls are a fact of life these days, and it pays to be cautious.

If you really have been doing laser shows since 1987, then you have no doubt gained a wealth of knowledge about the business. Had you chosen to share some of that with the community here in the past, people would feel more comfortable about who you are and what you've been doing. Instead, we know nothing about you, so we are a bit skeptical.

Put another way, if someone popped up out of the blue and claimed to be an experienced laserist from NZ who had been doing shows for 30 years, and it turned out to be someone YOU had never heard of before, wouldn't you be a bit skeptical? Same thing applies here.

Bottom line: there's no excuse for feeling butthurt because people don't know who you are. If you want people to know, you should have been participating all along. Lurking is not participating.

Adam

[gashead]

His point is crystal clear. You have not posted much on the forum (only 4 posts total now), so people don't know anything about you. Then you post a story that, on the face of it, appears to contradict Ray's own experience. That's why he voiced his concerns.

Adam, I hear what you're saying - but nothing wrong with lurking if you ask me.. I personally think I'm *too* vocal for my own good... Anyway - I can vouch for Bangman, I know him personally.. used to work for him back in the good old days.

-- snippity snip --

Bottom line: there's no excuse for feeling butthurt because people don't know who you are. If you want people to know, you should have been participating all along. Lurking is not participating.

I know Barry won't be hurting at all he's not the type of guy to get upset over Forum drama, he was just trying to do a good turn for a fellow Laserist.

[gashead]

He states he has been involved here in NZ for many years in opposition to another laser company.
Mmmmmmm interesting.. NZ has a total population of a modest city (about one quarter of LA for eg) how many full time professional laser companies do you think we can support down here ???
Ray
NZ

Ray,

Ever heard of Flying Pictures ?

Surely you've met Barry ??

If not.. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN MAN ?

N.

[buffo]

Adam, I hear what you're saying - but nothing wrong with lurking if you ask me.

Oh, I agree. Lots of people are uncomfortable posting on a forum, and that's fine. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with lurking by itself.

It's just that when a lurker does decide to post, they need to be prepared for the inevitable skeptical responses. It seemed that Barry was more than a little taken aback by this, and that was the root of my point: you can't have it both ways. You can't be an annonymous lurker when it suits you and then expect to be a well-known and trusted poster when you decide to de-lurk.

Adam