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    Default ILD SÔS - Ilda Manupulation Tool Now Available

    I'm happy to announce the ILD SÔS (pronounced sauce) is now available here. Here's a little introduction:

    It contains a lot of techniques I have worked on in the art of frame optimization, and its goal is to generate and facilitate the easy transfer and use of ILDA files for laser shows.
    ILD SÔS optimization routines are intended to allow the use of any speed scanner with any speed and type of DAC.

    What it is:
    - An ILDA file format converter tool
    - An LDS/Phoenix CAT format importer/converter
    - A Lasergraph/LDS PIC importer/converter
    - Animation previewer
    - A tool that can produce very good non-shaded 3D animation when used with 3D Studio Max and the Illustrate! plug-in
    - A tool that can also produce shaded 3D animation (shadows, etc) with the above pair
    - An optimization tool for very good pathfinding, data reduction, and point optimization for all file types
    - An animation tool that will calculate distributed fill points to keep a steady framerate
    - A palette upconversion and downconversion tool for compatibility
    - pal (Anarchy and LDS format) exporter for color compatibility conversion
    - Standards compliant

    What it is not:
    - A frame editor
    - Hard to use
    - Expensive
    - A generic DXF importer (DXF R12 and less only currently supported)

    ILD SÔS is not supposed to compete with other professional 3D laser show creation software, it IS intended to bring this capability down (closer) to hobbyist price level.


    ILD SÔS goes great with Spaghetti.
    ILD SÔS utilizes Laserboy data structures internally (Thanks James!), however all of the functionality (including optimization/processing/reduction/import/export) in this program is unique.

    ILD - Inconspicuous Laser Developer (SÔS is pronounced 'sauce')
    Each processing step can be enabled or disabled via the button on top of the step.


    User manual:
    DOWNLOAD HERE

    Thanks for all your support in this, members of PL. It is a work for you!




    Here's a go at a basic How-to for converting images to ILDA using inkscape and ILD SOS:

    7.9MB Xvid compressed Image to ILDA Turorial
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    I gather that a lot of people don't know what this is for or what it does...

    here is a quick example frame series that was produced through ILD SÔS. It is meant to be displayed at 30kpps with 30k scanners (but this could be adjusted) and the result is 80 fps. Picture this oscillating to the beat of a song.

    With ILD SOS, The target frame rate setting can be adjusted to match the pbm of your song to keep the animation perfectly in sync, while the DAC rate and Scan speed settings can be set to match your hardware.

    Because of the low complexity of the scene, ILD SOS has automatically and evenly added fill points to hit the 80fps target. If the scene was more complex, less fill points would be added, and the frame rate could be decreased. Also if a higher target frame rate like 100fps were entered, less fill points would be added.

    The file is in ILDA format 1 with a built-in automatically generated optimal 64 color palette. If your software doesn't handle built-in palettes let me know.. any ilda type can be generated.
    Simple example

    Note this is not a 3D example, it's a simulated 2d effect that was created with 3D studio max, illustrate! and ILDA SOS. 3D examples and fly-arounds are simple to do also, I think Dr Laser is working on some to show.

    Samples here:
    http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...6&postcount=52
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    I could not open it with Anarchy.
    Unknown file type error.

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    this is exactly one of the reasons why this program exists. to serve as a compatibility bridge between different programs that can and can't read different ilda file specification types. Format 2 included palette has been in the standard for a long time, and yet many professoinal programs still do not support it.

    Can your version of anarchy read ilda format 4 and 5? If so I'll post that. If not, I can post the ilda format 1 with no included palette, best matched to the standard ILDA palette. It's all just a couple of clicks.
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    No, I'm stuck with format 1.

    Steve

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    Default I want buy one for testing.

    I have no google checkout, but i have paypal.

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    Any free version available or commercial only?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mixedgas View Post
    No, I'm stuck with format 1.

    Steve
    Here is a plane-jane V1. It doesn't have some of the color effects of the other, but you should be able to play it fine.

    *link removed*

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    Quote Originally Posted by drlava View Post
    The file is in ILDA format 1 with a built-in automatically generated optimal 64 color palette. If your software doesn't handle built-in palettes let me know.. any ilda type can be generated.
    Simple example

    Note this is not a 3D example, it's a simulated 2d effect that was created with 3D studio max, illustrate! and ILDA SOS. 3D examples and fly-arounds are simple to do also, I think Dr Laser is working on some to show.


    Here's a fun one that I practiced with while getting more experience with the 3D environment:
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    No open with my MAMBA BLACK

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    Try downloading the second one (tunnel demo with cube) again.. The mamba black demo I just tried could open the standard 64 color palette one, but mamba black couldn't load the custom palette one OR the 24 bit (V5) color one. Hopefully they will support the V4 and V5 palette-less versions or the palette-included ILDA versions in the future.
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    Sorry went out of the county to see my fiance. Mixedgas you can't open the file because ILDA v1 has palette integrated. Anarchy doesn't like it.
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    Default splashline_v1

    splashline_v1 don't be opened by Anarchy and Mamba black.

    Simple example can be opened by Mamba black, but the picture is very turmoil, don't be recognise.

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    Dr Lava there is no need to integrate palettes into V1 64 or 256. Only 24bit needs palette integration!
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    It is not necessary to include the palette in ILD SOS, but it is an option.

    This is my reasoning:
    There are more than one V0,1 64 color and 256 color palettes. Integrating them into the file by following the ILDA standard that has been published for many many years removes any confusion or question as to what the palette should be for that ILDA file.
    If you have a program that can't handle the built-in palette, then exporting the ilda without the palette is an option, too. Everything's covered.

    Here is Mamba with the default 64 color palette ilda included in the above example. As you can see, it loads fine. As mamba gets more advanced, it should be able to handle ilda files with built-in palettes and also the 24 bit color ilda files (V4,5) as well.

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    we really need a more robust file with real numbers and real vector information included with the point information.

    im talkin' bout real circles and curves instead of points.. and smart software that could look at the true vector data and figure the best path for scanning and at what speed etc etc..

    it looks like SOS is a step in the right direction..
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    I updated the plane-jane splashline V1 from post #8 so that it doesn't have the included palette, re-download if you want to test:


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    ILD SÔS updated to 1.1:

    Added frame previewer with statistics. You can now instantly see the results of your optimization and processing. Will be sending a free update soon to those that have ordered.

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    Sweet!

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    ILD SOS update 1.2.02:

    Now with live laser preview! Supports RIYA, EasyLase, EzAudDac, and (totally untested) QM2000

    You can now preview your graphics, increase scan speed/decrease flicker, remove laser hotspots and brightness changes due to scan speed, tune your blanking offset, and more! Improved DXF import, still great 3DS Max illustrate! import.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drlava View Post
    ILD SOS update 1.2.02:

    Now with live laser preview! Supports RIYA, EasyLase, EzAudDac, and (totally untested) QM2000

    You can now preview your graphics, increase scan speed/decrease flicker, remove laser hotspots and brightness changes due to scan speed, tune your blanking offset, and more! Improved DXF import, still great 3DS Max illustrate! import.


    My Friend. .!!!

    Laserboy don't Read DXF from COREL DRAW ...!!! ...at least not on my computer

    You try if SÔS ...read this tipe of file from COREL DRAW ..?

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    Hello

    Yes, I can test. Also you can email me a test file, PM sent.

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    Corel Draw saves as SPLINE by default. i believe you can set it to save as POLYLINE and then LaserBoy will open it
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    Now, if only you could integrate a .swf to .ild converter

    Looks pretty good Nice work

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    V 1.2.05:

    Now beamshow preview options, openGL preview rendering

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    Well, if this works as good as I think it does, you are too modest to call it V 1.2.05.

    If this is what you call V 1.2.05, I wonder what V 1.8.01, or V2.0.0 looks like .

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