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I can always be counted on to defend myself when people twist what I'm saying around. There's very little I despise more than that.
I can always be counted on to defend myself when people twist what I'm saying around. There's very little I despise more than that.
This might be part of it... our rep around town has reached the point where we're getting booked to handle complete shows. There aren't a bunch of other random lights and crew doing their own thing because people have accepted that it actually takes away from a great visual performance. Even the bartenders are reaching the point of trying to help control spill lighting. Where there are other visual elements, they're coordinated with the lasers so it all works together.Originally Posted by ElektroFreak
Even when working with another crew in charge, having consistenct response in the gear enables cooperation in a way that creates a perceptible impact on the audience. It's also much easier to find the groove and feel creative when you're working with your gear and not in spite of its shortcomings. When you can see where the DJ is going and accent the drama directly on beat, it just feels incredible.
^You're definitely right about that. "doing their own thing" wasn't the proper wording and I apologize for that. At our shows there are two parties working the lights, myself on lasers only, and Dan, my colleague doing the rest. He's a genius and I put myself at his disposal. He runs the whole show, I just control the lasers at his whim more or less. The end result is an excellent all around experience.
My only point throughout this entire discourse has been that I, speaking only for myself, feel that a few ms is not noticeable. 80ms is less than 1/10 of a second. The echoes bouncing off the walls take more time than that to calm after each drumbeat. It is a frivolous amount of time, really.
For the record, I am on a serious budget. Times are tight for myself and many others. I cannot afford to buy more expensive hardware until I complete a few more shows. Then the quality of my shows will increase. There is room for people like me in the laser business, especially here in STL. I understand that there are better ways and better gear, but I am quite proud of what I have done with my limited resources. I have a lot of confidence in the capabilities of my DIY hardware because I have seen the results myself. I don't need some geeky laser snob insinuating that my shows must be shit just because he/she has so much more.. Good for them. Time will cure my problems, time won't cure a shitty attitude. Thank god for the ignore feature.
I'm costantly hearing about "pangolin this" and "FB3 that" and it is FINE hardware, don't get me wrong. That's no reason to act like people who are trying to do things DIY don't have a clue what they're talking about. Nothing could be further from the truth. Take the soundcard DAC for example. If you build it right and use the right software you cannot find a better solution at the price point. For someone on a budget it is cost effective and you get the satisfaction of saying that you build every part of your system. Sure, it has its limits, and sure the other stuff performs better, but that's still no reason to act like we're not able to please the audience. 99.9% of the population of this planet wouldn't know an FB3 show from my soundcard DAC show unless they were placed side by side.. that's the truth of the matter.
Oh, and I also want to add that 80ms is less time than the sound leaving the speakers takes to reach the back of the audience in a large venue.. so depending on where you're standing the laser might be on beat, or a few tens of ms off beat.
Last edited by ElektroFreak; 08-13-2009 at 19:47.
As I recall, *you* were the one who seemed to think the audience couldn't tell the difference between a poor show and a good one. I never said anything about the quality of your work- I've never seen it, so I'd never comment on it.
Yes Ma'am!
Wow, what a tool.
I've discovered that the USB-to-ethernet thingamajigger fits nicely in the flight case with the laser :-) I've put some industrial Velcro on both the projector and the USB doodad, so I can stick one on top of the other and have them stay put.
I just found this thing: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.27164
After discovering newegg wont ship to Aus, I think this would be my next bet? and a few $ cheaper. Maybe i'll buy it and see what happens lol.
- Dan
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>180mw 532nm scanner with DT25's and Pangolin FB3!
Aussie Laser-Wave distributer.
The 3 laws of science:
1. If it stinks, its chemistry.
2. If its mushy, its biology.
3. If it doesn't work, its physics.
Hrm... My airport extreme has a usb port on it. I wonder if that'll work with my FB3... Damn do I wish I had my projector with me on this tour...
"TO DO IS TO BE" - Nietzsche
"TO BE IS TO DO" - Kant
"DO BE DO BE DO" - Sinatra
No. It only supports printers and storage devices.
GAH! stupid apple and their stupid stupidness.
at least it was free.
"TO DO IS TO BE" - Nietzsche
"TO BE IS TO DO" - Kant
"DO BE DO BE DO" - Sinatra
The WiFi/router/hub system I started this thread about also works with Pangolin LivePro, the new QuickShow but NOT with LiveQuick using an FB3-SE.
LiveQuick, to run, seems to need assess to the card fitted inside FB3-SE and using the WiFi system it just can't seem to see it.
It also works with the LAStudio stuff, which is nice. My guess is that the LiveQ thing issues a command to the FB3 that causes it to change its USB identity, which doesn't work with these devices (they also don't work with my USB AVRs when they switch to DFU mode).
Did the belkin hub with the wireless router ever get tested with a USB Soundcard DAC?
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