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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee View Post
    Hrm, Apparently Quickshow doesn't like my license file.
    perhaps this doesn't work with the la freak package?
    As far as i know its a free upgrade from LiveQuick and only for FB3 owners for now. If you own and FB3 cantact Pangolin about the prob

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    I'm not sure it checks a license file. It didn't like my LivePro license when trying to run standalone, but as soon as I plugged in the FB3 it ran fine, so I suspect it uses the FB3 as a dongle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee View Post
    Hrm, Apparently Quickshow doesn't like my license file.
    perhaps this doesn't work with the la freak package?
    Try (re)moving your license file to a different place other than the QS directory, plug in your FB3....it should autodetect and start just fine.

    As a side note: 1st time QS detected the fb3, it also said firmware wasn't up to date, then gave option to flash it to current.

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    Thanks for the kudos guys!

    I am glad that people are able to find their way around QuickShow pretty easily. Nevertheless, there are features that I am sure will need to be explained (in an expanded help file and also help videos coming soon).

    For example, many many things in QuickShow can work on the basis of beats or time. Try clicking on a cue that is a single frame and then go to the Effect Editor tab (the one with the E). Then "Add" an oscillating zoom effect. By default, that effect will go do the beat of the music. Now, within the effect you will see a little "metronome" icon. If you click on it, it will change to a "clock" (indicating beats or time). You can change the number of beats (or amount of time) it will take to accomplish the effect, and also click on the button labeled "options" and you will be able to change "how" the effect is applied over time. By default it is a ping-pong action, but it can be changed to other things (for example, a four-step sequence).

    There are other hidden goodies. For example, most sliders have a little down-pointing arrow. If you click on it, you will be able to jump to common values for that slider.

    Effects can be used almost anywhere, including text, abstracts, and even in the little QuickFX section below.

    You might have also noticed the very soft feel of the program, provided by "transitions". By default the transition is a fade and zoom, but this can be changed if you "View" the "Dynamics" tab and then click on the little E by the Starting and Ending effect.

    This program is certainly very deep, and for many people it can be a very effective replacement for LivePRO. LivePRO can do a few things this program can't, and has a different philosophy. But this program can do probably more than a few things that LivePRO can't...

    Regarding the LivePRO Winamp plugin, it doesn't work with that BUT has someting that is much better. (It is currently hidden and, once we work out all of the kinks it will be made visible.)

    Regarding "license files", this program *should* work with any PANGOLIN FB3 (emphasis added on the word PANGOLIN because some FB3 were sold for use by NEO-NEON and other companies -- some of whom don't advertize that they are indeed powered by Pangolin). If you have trouble running the softare, please contact us so we can find out what's going on.

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    Hi all,

    Oliver wrote me a private email, but the contents were intriguing enough that I think it warrants a public response.

    It's mentioned in the help file, but this is probably one of those things that you've got to see to completely understand.

    The point is, with those tools on the bottom, everything works with drag and drop. So, for example, if you make a "quick text", once you get it looking the way you want, you simply drag and drop it to a cue. You can drag and drop the preview window or the tab. Either will work.

    Oliver asked "how do I save a show". Well, I think the show you are working on will be saved with the workspace anyway, but the better solution is to simply drag and drop it to a cue. Once you do that, you can permanently access it.

    To edit any of these things later, you drag from the cue grid down to the tabs.

    This "offline editing" and "dragging from and to tabs" are a few of the most unique aspects of this program. It's a bit unusual, but really very handy because you never need to open a separate dialog box and block the rest of the window.

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    thankyou bill, i now think i know what you mean.

    you drag the file up to the cues box and save the workspace then next time i come to edit the show i load the music file back up and drag and drop the show back down to the timeline editor is this what you are meaning mate?

    if it is i have given that ago, i managed to drag the show to the cues and save it but could not drag it back down to the timeline after to start either re-editing the show or playing the show with the music.

    could you please advise what im doing wrong?


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    As I wrote, in build 128, the timeline is probably the weakest part. Certain things don't work perfectly, and we are working on that right now.

    What is *supposed* to happen is that when you click on a cue, it should also play the music. But it doesn't... So... we'll have to fix that.

    As for dragging the cue back to the timeline, don't forget that it is kinda the "tabs" themselves that are the real magical items. You can drag a "tab" to a cue, and you can drag a cue to a tab. This tab is a central and core theme in the metaphore.

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    Ohh, better than a winamp plugin, can't wait!

    Though, this software is very, very nice. I spent a fair bit of time last night playing around with it, very easy to learn, and powerful.

    I have finished school for 2 months now, have heaps of time to play around with it
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    it seems like a powerful combination of live quick and the la freak package (la studio) although i dont see a way to stop an ilda play speed to 0% which is something la studio did...

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    There is a pause button up on the top right above the laser preview window.
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    I noticed that once the FB3 had been connected once, Quickshow will start and run without it connected allowing offline (i.e. on the train) editing! This is more than a little fantastic!

    That, and the flash button option on cues!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yag View Post
    I noticed that once the FB3 had been connected once, Quickshow will start and run without it connected allowing offline (i.e. on the train) editing! This is more than a little fantastic!
    Yes, this is true dongle-less software! Once the software understands that you're a legitimate user (i.e. you have plugged the FB3 into your computer at least once), you can use the software after that with full functionality including saving!

    Bill

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    Damn, u made me drool while i was reading how awesome the Quickshow is! >.<

    So, here are some questions:
    1. If i want to use Quickshow, i just have to buy fb3?
    2. Is there new fb3 hardware? (i read somewhere something about fb3 QS version...)
    3. Will price change because of such major update/upgrade?
    4. Do Pangolin really has central europe branch office in Slovenia??? i thought America doesnt know that our small country exists

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    It also mentions about a Quickshow Licence file? What is the idea behind that Bill?
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    Quick suggestion:

    Instead of saving every cue in the workspace, which takes quite a while, is it possible to have it only save cues that have been modified? It took me like 10 minutes for QS to save my whole workspace, but I only changed like 4 cues.

    EDIT:

    Made a video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwQ_EBshtwE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pangolin View Post
    Yes, this is true dongle-less software! Once the software understands that you're a legitimate user (i.e. you have plugged the FB3 into your computer at least once), you can use the software after that with full functionality including saving!

    Bill

    I would just like to add that Bill emailed this info to me personally, ON THANKSGIVING. Thank you guys again for the truly amazing customer support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavyen View Post
    Damn, u made me drool while i was reading how awesome the Quickshow is! >.<

    So, here are some questions:
    1. If i want to use Quickshow, i just have to buy fb3?
    2. Is there new fb3 hardware? (i read somewhere something about fb3 QS version...)
    3. Will price change because of such major update/upgrade?
    4. Do Pangolin really has central europe branch office in Slovenia??? i thought America doesnt know that our small country exists
    According to the people I met at Sib, in Italy, maybe America doesn't know that much about Slovenia, but Pangolin instead has many good friends there

    Anyway Quickshow ROCKS! Thank You so much Bill

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    Just got a look at quickshow, really is powerfull. I have two systems running QM2000 intro, when will livequick be available for the QM2000?

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    In 2010.........

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    I was waiting for this to come out for so long... and now I rip my projector apart for a several phase rebuild... and it comes out... :P

    Bill - I cannot wait to test it! Thanks yet again for the excellent support!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Things View Post
    Quick suggestion:

    Instead of saving every cue in the workspace, which takes quite a while, is it possible to have it only save cues that have been modified? It took me like 10 minutes for QS to save my whole workspace, but I only changed like 4 cues.
    I wholly agree with this statement, it takes ages to save - It also locks up while it's saving.... although I suppose it may well do that - I ain't no puter wizard me
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    Quote Originally Posted by smogthemog View Post
    It also mentions about a Quickshow Licence file? What is the idea behind that Bill?
    If its the same as in the Beta test (I actually had the full version and that required the licence file), the software checks your pc to ensure you have a valid licence file. Without it, it won't run. The licence file itself is set up so that any alteration to it, sometimes merely opening the containing folder to look at it is enough) breaks it and prevents QS running.

    I guess its another anti-piracy method and a very good one. Far better than a dongle. At least if anything goes wrong with the licence file you can just contact Pangolin and they'll email you a replacement. If anyone's wondering about the licence file, each one is specific ie. its licensed to you by name not by random key number alone, thereby making piracy through file sharing very undesirable. Another very good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smogthemog View Post
    It also locks up while it's saving.... although I suppose it may well do that - I ain't no puter wizard me
    I'd not had that whilst testing but then again I'm on a very powerful pc. Maybe the saving aspect is pc intensive.
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    Livepro also locks up whilst saving so I'm sure its just an artefact of the save process for such a large file.

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    Thanks for the explanation

    All said, it is a cracking Program indeed - Thanks Bill and all that made it so
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