Laserium DSOTM 'eVent'.. 'n ya'll'r invited... :)

[Jem]

Is there anywhere left in the UK that's still doing this sort of thing.

I only know of two Planatariums in the UK, the one in London and a temporary one at Harewood House near Leeds. Don't know what gear they are using though.. Anyone know?

I'd love to visit a decent Planetarium, I have memories of being taken to the London one by my parents as a kid.

One of the most awe inspiring sights i've ever seen was the view of space from Whistler (Nr Vancouver). I've never seen so many stars in my life as I saw that night, it was truly awe inspiring. Made me realise how much pollution we have in the UK

Cheers

Jem

[dsli_jon]

Hey Kats -

Thank for all the great comments! - I'll pass them along to Ivan, which will, I am sure, bring at least a small smile to his face - sorely needed, these days..

what happend? thats it? its closed

Wow - even Clan came out! yeah, sadly, the investors-management / lunatics took over the asylum and screwed the pooch (how's that for a cliche-cocktail... ) I knew it was doomed when the 'marketing manager' basically hijacked the website and turned it into that hideous sack of entrails that got up - he didn't even ASK Ivan's (or anyones') approval - can you IMAGINE trying to sell LASERIUM - without SHOWING LASERIUMs images?????? 'Stock photography' of $#!%y club-laser-crap, are you INSANE??? THIS is what needed to be put up, (and waaaaaay less text / BS and 'staged' video-clips) :

Supernovi_lo_wm.jpgOscillatin_lo_wm.jpgFutuRchik_lo_wm.jpgStargasm_lo_wm.jpgPlanet Storm_lo_wm.jpgCellular_lo_wm.jpgTriWhirl_lo_wm.jpgSwirlnWhirln_lo_wm.jpg

...*sigh* oh, well - but as it has in the past, this great 'Phoenix' will rise-again - 'don't know how, don't know when, but I know we'll meet again, some suuunnnyy daaaaaayyy'!

Lava A huge percentage of that is all being done live. Some stuff came from the tape some from the oscillator banks and some from the show opp. Some tape stuff you could consider a seed, that the op would take and do the rest live... with note cards that had instructions on presetting osc banks and effects and switch positions. Then the local op would preform the show live.

That is partially what made the shows so great. There was never s show that was exactly the same, similar yes but not exact.

Dsl, can you get a shot of the console?

p.s. It has been a lot of years please correct me if i am wrong.

yes, Chad, you are pretty-much spot-on - the only difference is that 'today', we brought all 'recorded' material into Ableton Live (used like a 'conductor') and then we could turn-on / off midi info (controlling all actuators / scan-glasses, etc) so the show could be 'more-' or 'less-live', on-demand... and thus, we eliminated ADATs, and also, could go-in and cut/paste / tweek / color-mod, etc - not necessarily the 'ultimate' solution, but it did eliminate the 'fragile' ADAT-factor / neatly-harness all midi-data, etc...

Anyhoo, here's that 'console' for ya - DZ - here ya go buddy - the most Ultimate analog oscillator bank twiddler / synthesizer ever built!

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...Now, who wants to help me 'emulate' this and get it all packed-into a small box / touch-screen?? - 'and together, we can rule the galaxy as Father and Son...'

Please join me in a moment of silence... ok, back to werk!

ciao
j

[Jem]

Hi Jon

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Cheers

Jem

Edit... Oop's i'm too quick... You've corrected them

[buffo]

They're working fine for me, Jeremy...

Adam

[Jem]

Yeah, Jon must have corrected them whilst I was posting

[mophead]

Those consoles are drop dead sexy. So many buttons to mash and knobs to twist......


What do the joysticks do?

[mixedgas]

Anyhoo, here's that 'console' for ya - DZ - here ya go buddy - the most Ultimate analog oscillator bank twiddler / synthesizer ever built!

No, not exactly. Perhaps the best loved and most used. I had access to one that needed three 19" racks of support gear for about two weeks a few years ago. I'm told it was recently destroyed. Its results were highly viewed, but perhaps with not as much sales as Laserium.

Jon, look at it this way, since you have worked on it, the knowledge of how to do it, will not die as fast...

Steve

[blowfly]

Holy flashbacks! Watching this I felt like i was 17 again, staring up at the Planetarium laser show at Omsi in Portland. This kind of sh*t is why I've always wanted to build a projector.

Truely beautiful and inspiring John. Thanks for providing the creative stimulation. This show sets a high bar, I love it!

Mike

PS. Are there just two RGB projectors at work here?

[dsli_jon]

Hey Mike -

Holy flashbacks! ...PS. Are there just two RGB projectors at work here?

Glad you enjoyed the show... got more to post (The Wall, others... ) but too busy with shows right now to finish the ripping / uploading, etc... RE: the projector, nope - just one projector, with 2 X-Y channels and one 4-position 'rail' for fx / lumia... thus the 'Legendary CSL' title... ...the art was more in the Laserists 'performance', since this is a 'recording' of, in fact, a live performance -

More to come, and hopefully, oneday, I will be able to come back and annouce we're putting these on, again, live, somewhere... only THIS TIME, WE'LL BE IN CHARGE...

peace..
j

[laserist]

For the record:Laserium%206B%20StudioA_old_annotated.JPG
some of the functions moved around over the years...
And the joysticks have the damping mod, so there really should be a control box over the right joystick.

Thanks for the photo, it brought back fond memories...

Brian

[dsli_jon]

hey Brian! -

Thanks for the photo, it brought back fond memories...

Thanks for those 'notes' ...who are you, dude? ...I mean, in the 'Laserium-context'? PM-me, if ya wanna chat sometime... or ring me up... 818.358.8716... we ain't dead yet...

peace...
j

[Photonbeam]

A few of us on the '77 Led Zeppelin crew went to Griffith Park to see Laserium on a night off in LA. We were blown away and talked all night about how it was done. Someone asked the Laserium operator why the console had no labels? He said that if you needed labels, you shouldn't be operating it. From then on, none of my consoles had labels.

[mikkojay]

A few of us on the '77 Led Zeppelin crew went to Griffith Park to see Laserium on a night off in LA. We were blown away and talked all night about how it was done. Someone asked the Laserium operator why the console had no labels? He said that if you needed labels, you shouldn't be operating it. From then on, none of my consoles had labels.

Oh man, that quote makes me jealous from a minimum of three different angles!
-Mike

[laserist]

A few of us on the '77 Led Zeppelin crew went to Griffith Park to see Laserium on a night off in LA. We were blown away and talked all night about how it was done. Someone asked the Laserium operator why the console had no labels? He said that if you needed labels, you shouldn't be operating it. From then on, none of my consoles had labels.

Well that was part of it. The other part was you just didn't have time to look for labels. You were looking at the dome. Laserium in those days was Analog – the laserist was doing real time eye/hand synchronization as part of the control system. Many of the best licks involved making the image change direction exactly on cue, or the evolution of the image phasing, or re-synchronizing the spiral rate perfectly when the tempo changed at the bridge, or exactly how the color mod and chopper frequencies beat against each other and the image. Imagine playing an instrument where the artistry involves bending the note to make it beat just right against the other notes – that’s sort of close…

[laserist]

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What do the joysticks do?

One offset the images in one of several modes, and the other was z-axis image rotation. The functions were interchangeable. I remember it being possible to put both functions on one joystick, but that might have just been me screwing around at some point - I don't remember using that in a show.