Quad Red.. Who HAs a Working Build?

[LaserGuy216]

ok ... so the Laserman532 Quad kit. http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...light=quad+red .. DOESNT WORK..... with the dual modual holers as he sells it with.... what a waist of time..... He's now telling me that I need the single modual holders inorder in reach my mark.... and If I'v got an extra $500 he'll sell me the singles..... WTF? why did you sell something that DOESNT WORK?

Also the modual holders are not straight & they dont sit flat on the plate... they look bent?

also in his post # 7 All necessary hardware to mount all the parts will be included.... Im missing a screw & a hole was untaped.... that doesnt seem complete to me....

I really like to see fellow members making kits for us to build & passing along their knowledge. but with this kit someone has really dropped the ball...

If you dont have single modual holders to replace the dual's inorder to make your kit work properley, I would just like to send back the plate & holders for a refund..

[LaserGuy216]

this is great..... a PM from pat..... laserman532....

Re: dual holders

unfortunately ted, i will not be refunding any money. The components you purchased off of my website are that, components. The dual aixiz holders perform the duties as designed and perform as indicated on the website, they hold aixiz modules securely and isolate the diodes from the mount as promised. The aluminum base plates perform their function as designed. They were pre drilled to hold the modules as promised. It is possibly true that one hole was not tapped, I offered to tap that hole, you declined.

Information on building quads was published on PL in several different threads explaining the pitfalls / advantages of different designs (basic quad verses quad elite). As a matter of fact, when the first quad was offered, discussion on what the resulting beam profile was precisely explained which led to the development to the Quad Elite four days later. That is the result when building that type of system. You did not purchase finished, complete modules with any warranty as to them working as a system. You purchased individual components that operate perfectly as designed.

The holders you have will work perfectly as a dual setup, they will work as a quad as well however not optimum for beam characteristics. I would suggest you use the holders to build up some dual combiners. I will offer you a simple design for free should you want to go that route. You can also offer to sell the components on the open forum should you choose to do so.

I would suggest you choose to avoid the creation of public drama with this issue. It appears that you failed to DYODD and you are probably working on a project that is beyond your level of expertise, and for that...i am not liable.

It is possible in the future that I will do another run of single aixiz holders, but it is unlikely in the near future as there seems to be a lack of interest in them and therefore I am un willing to advance the capitol necessary to have them sit on my shelf. I may start a thread that will offer them as a group buy to gauge the interest level however that will probably not be a quick event.

pat b

[Laserman532]

Yes, it appears that you have chosen to go the DRAMA route.

[LaserGuy216]

I just want my money back... it doesnt work.. and you knew that I was building a quad kit.... I talked to you on the phone about it.... I think you just wanted the cash.......

And then you try and say " It appears that you failed to DYODD and you are probably working on a project that is beyond your level of expertise "

pat Ive talked to the best of the best and I think they know what their talking about...

and how dare you try and pass it off on expertise... Im not some hillbilly in a corn field with a laser pointer.

[Laserman532]

I just want my money back... it doesnt work.. and you knew that I was building a quad kit.... I talked to you on the phone about it.... I think you just wanted the cash.......

And then you try and say " It appears that you failed to DYODD and you are probably working on a project that is beyond your level of expertise "

pat Ive talked to the best of the best and I think they know what their talking about...

and how dare you try and pass it off on expertise... Im not some hillbilly in a corn field with a laser pointer.

Did I insinuate you were some hillbilly in a corn field with a laser pointer?

I was referring to your level of understanding regarding the advantages / disadvantages of design parameters.

So....all I can say is...

1- the components operate as designed
2-the advantages / disadvantages of various designs were discussed in detail in a public forum
3-you understood the characteristics of that design
4-you talked to the best of the best so obviously your purchase was well informed

post pics of your build.

If you are unhappy with the performance / characteristics of that design that is unfortunate. I did not sell you a system, I sold you components to hold modules that you assembled into a final product.

If you choose to use the holders for duals, I will offer at NO CHARGE the design to make a dual setup.

I will start a thread to gauge the interest in doing another run of single holders as I am out of stock.
(proof was provided to you via the PM that I sent to 300evil) I am under NO obligation to replace ANY functioning component because "a system you assembled" does not produce the results you hoped for.

[Laserman532]

here is a very simple way of using your dual holders to make a dual, if you do not like using them for a quad set up.. Thanks mophead for your effort to find me the pic.

[buffo]

I like the idea of a compact dual rig, but I think I'd rather have an MM1 on that bounce mirror just to help with alignment. Shouldn't add too much to the size... Still, if you get that angle-piece bent correctly, then I agree that you won't need the MM1.

Re: the quad rig... If you only need another mm or two on the horizontally polarized diode, why not shim that end of the dual mount up a bit? That should give you the clearance you need.

Adam

[mccarrot]

Because the H and V diode are both in one mount.

You could tilt one corner of the mount to raise it but thats not a nice solution.

He needs separate mounts for the collimator's to stack them in to of each other as I have explained earlier: In the pictures you see H+1 this means it need to be raised 1mm (with my collimators)

[buffo]

I don't see using a shim as being a "not nice" solution. Maybe it's not as elegant as having separate mounts, but the dual-mount solution *is* cheaper. With a simple wedge-shaped shim, it will work just as well as having separate mounts. In any case it's certainly not "defective" in any way.

Pat sells both, with the idea that the end user can pick which solution he wants. The dual mount is cheaper and easier to align, while the individual mount system offers slightly better beam specs at the expense of increased cost and complexity.

Furthermore, I think the elliptical beam profiles in the example pics above really distort the issue. In practice, depending on the diode you use, the difference is only a millimeter or so, making the dual mount very practical. Let's not make a mountain out of a mole hill here.

Adam

[mccarrot]

The oval beams in the picture above is the beam my collimator is putting out (1,2mm x 2,2mm beam)

I'm not sure what a aixiz collimator will have for beam profile

So you are suggesting this method:

not very well for cooling and stabilty.