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    I got off MSN with Laserwinkel today and was astonished that he made quite the deal.

    "What? You got another whitelight? And it's a large frame this time...?"

    He managed to get his hands on a Spectra-Physics 2010-05 with Ar-Kr fill, at least according to the warning sticker. Complete with 2540 power supply, 2170 remote and a lot of bits and bobs (electronics, optics) which were used to build this thing into a projector somewhere in the 90's. Even the computer that was controlling it is there -- an old Windows 3.1 machine with a New Method LAS-25 ISA DAC!

    My jaw dropped when I heard the price. 200 euros, as the previous owner figured it to be a non-working piece of scrap and he had no idea on how to fix it. According to him, the unit was recently re-pumped and removed in working condition when the venue it was in shut down due to financial trouble.



    Rear of the 2540. The 208V three-phase was removed neatly this time, so no trouble with installing a replacement. The head cable was permanently attached to the PSU and, luckily, NOT disassembled with a cutting torch or bolt cutters.



    The guts of the 2540. Amazing, what they managed to cram inside this thing, as it can actually run two heads simultaneously. And it's half the size of the 265!



    The 2170 along with a little box that has a pair of DB15 plugs on the front and a BNC on the back. The remote has a 'modulation' plug (also BNC), but I'm unable to find any specifications on how to operate it. Hey, at least this one has a working key!



    And here's what's inside the box, a power transformer and a few op-amps. The op-amps are labeled C, M and Y, so they've got to do with a colour signal going in (or out) somewhere. I don't see any RF, so I doubt it's a PCAOM driver, does it connect to the SP2170 and does the head have some kind of modulation on the other end? I don't suspect it to have an internal PCAOM.



    Close-up on the plug coming from the head. There appears to be some damage on the top pins (black wires), those could be the magnet wires. Aside from that, there are still two danglies to be sorted, those could just be plain ground.



    Big pile of optics, starting with a makeshift beam-table (at the top), some projector head (at the bottom) with General Scanning G120D/G120DT galvanometers, and a big gap at the right-hand side which could be where the PCAOM used to be. There might have been some fiber couplers in there as well, in years long gone, but right now it's just a pile of old galvos, mirrors and adjustable mounts. Even that was worth the €200!





    Some shots of the head. It's far from as clean as the 168 (yes, it was on the floppy-stand for the photo, shoot Laserwinkel for that! ) and looks a lot less pretty as it's completely encased. Not sure which way round it is, I'm unable to make out the wire colours from these photos. But it's a sealed mirror unit, so if it runs, it runs!



    Close up on the type plate. Year of Mfg. is 1988, model number is 2010-05, serial number is 1205.



    And a shot of the warning sticker. It says 15W Argon-Krypton, but I'd be surprised if it actually does that. Might have been the cause of the damaged plug earlier though, since some previous owner may have run it a little on the 'run-it-till-it-smokes' mode to get every mW of power out of it. Could also explain the re-fill.

    Seems we've got some work to do soon. Fixing not one, but TWO whitelights in the same garage, and this one is even bigger than the 168 that's already under repair. I'll keep everyone updated, and I'll probably need to find a generator, as the 2010 requires an ENORMOUS amount of juice from the grid...

    But hey, if we pull this lot off, time to do some massive parties. Picture the 2010 doing beam shows, with the 168 doing the graphics.

    Amazing what people tend to throw away these days... those whitelights still give most DPSS' a run for their money. Fat reds? Nah, I'll stick to TEM00...

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    Hopefully I read this incorrectly.. It should say...He paid me 200 euros to take it off his hands.

    Not to burst your bubble but if I dont tell you...who will...this laser is a dog and not worth its weight in scrap metal. Just being honest, but I would ask for your money back...it is just an argon, and you will be lucky if it lights...less on run. sorry to be the bearer of bad news...but it is possible you could prove me wrong
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    Hey Stoney...

    Yeeah, I gotta back-up Pat on that.. PSU looks a liiiiitle-less than 'plug n play'... Please pass-on to 'Winkel', there, that if you run-into 'issues' with that PSU, I am trying to get rid of one in MUCH nicer-shape... check the pix... http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...764#post134764

    ...might be of help in your case / might not... Pat? Lemme know if 'interest develops' - this will be scrapped-soon...

    cheers..
    j

    PS - also-have, separately from the other PSU, with that cool, little 'mini-remote', I also have another, spare 2170 remote, also, in excellent shape...

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    ...lemme know...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman532 View Post
    Not to burst your bubble but if I dont tell you...who will...this laser is a dog and not worth its weight in scrap metal. Just being honest, but I would ask for your money back...it is just an argon, and you will be lucky if it lights...less on run. sorry to be the bearer of bad news...but it is possible you could prove me wrong
    Still, it's a cool project and even IF it's just an argon (I don't have any way of knowing from here!), any laser that's running again is good in my book. Would be very optimistic if they just slapped Argon-Krypton on the sticker, or was that just standard issue during assembly of the whole series?

    The one thing I'm concerned about right now is that damage on the head connector. If it's from the magnet and due to overcurrent or overheating (inadequate cooling?), the whole coil may just be melted down into one big heap of copper. That means no field, and no way this thing is going to light.

    Even if the tube is looking to be a dud, there's still money to be made on the 2540/2170 power supply, which doesn't look like it's got any defects at all and was disassembled with care.

    If the tube is OK and it's got an argon-only fill (which wouldn't surprise me, that means the modulation input is just an analog one and the little box is a colour correction box that sums everything down to blue), then it's still a great beam-chucker any day. People are still going to be impressed with 5W+ of blue.

    First order of business: Get a big duster and give everything an enourmous cleaning. And get the 168 working while we're at it!

    Quote Originally Posted by dsli_jon View Post
    Hey Stoney...

    Yeeah, I gotta back-up Pat on that.. PSU looks a liiiiitle-less than 'plug n play'... Please pass-on to 'Winkel', there, that if you run-into 'issues' with that PSU, I am trying to get rid of one in MUCH nicer-shape... check the pix... http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/showthread.php/10246-Misc-Items-FS...-I-guess...?p=134764#post134764
    j
    The URL's not really working here (404), but if you're referring to the missing connectors on the PSU back, I'm aware of that. ... the laser head was fixed with a permanent cable feed-through into the PSU (instead of a MIL-STD plug like on the 265) and the 208V 3P+E CEE plug is still missing.

    I'm not sure if you've seen the abuse the salvaged 265 has taken in the other thread, but we managed to get that up and running with a day's worth of tinkering. So I'm pretty confident that fixing a few missing plugs and some chipped paint isn't going to ruin my weekend.

    Your PSU looks nicely compact, and I would have loved to get that off your hands to run the 168, but it's dreadfully heavy and runs off 208V as well, so shipping's going to be a pain in the backside. I wonder if there are even ANY SP power supplies that can run off our side of the pond's 400V grid...

    @Laserman532: You seem to be holding a serious grudge on these types of lasers and the PSU's. Something happened in your childhood?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoney3K View Post
    @Laserman532: You seem to be holding a serious grudge on these types of lasers and the PSU's. Something happened in your childhood?
    Yeah, his parents dropped one of them on his head :P
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    my experience with them was less than stellar. may be yours will be better...standing by for success

    ps- since the dawn of time...those danger stickers always said argon / krypton no matter what it was filled with.
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