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    Default Strobes and hazers

    First off guys I'm looking for some martin atomic strobes. I would like as many as I can get for under 1000 iv found them for 460 new but would be happy buying second hand if the price is alot better. I just can't bring myself to spend 1000 on 2 strobes. I know there amazing strobes but that's alot of money.

    Also I'm Looking for a good high output haze machine and was wondering what people suggest? Iv used the look solution one and it was good but it was in a theatre i used it and due to the high ceilings the haze went straight up and didn't fill the room as well as I hoped. It did to a point but the level of smoke 10 foot from the stage was very minimal. I had rigged a Jen smoke machine at the back of the room so used that to help but would like a hazer capable of doing a room the size of about 2000 people. Any advice would be appreciated

    thanks ollie
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    Hi Ollie,

    Good choice on the Atomics, although from experience I would get new ones. The newer PCBs are better [Old ones blew out the HV tracks on the PCB], you get warranty and a new flash tube (lamp).

    2 for 1000 doesn't sound bad, if you put them on high power mode you'll be very surprised with the output. Just one word of warning, make sure you have a 32amp supply EACH for them if running in high power mode!

    As for a hazer, have a look at the Jem / Martin K1 hazer! Very quiet, uses an insanely small amount of fluid and I was impressed with the fine haze output from the unit.
    Or if your budget stretches have a look at a DF50 hazer, an efficient crack oil hazer (the haze lasts FOREVER!).

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    If you want good used strobes, look on Ebay or at a used gear dealer for High End Dataflash strobes. I see them for 200-250 USD, plus the controller will run anywhere from 200-500 USD, depending on which you get (mini or full). Sometimes you get get great package deals off ebay. I got four for 500 USD off ebay several years ago. Most of my D's are 17+ years old and they work great. In 14 years of use, I've blown only 2 bulbs. Just be aware of which version you buy; the AF1000's and the original D's are not interchangeable and do not use the same controller.

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    Iv used the atomic a couple of times and it is an extremly good strobe but I just can't bring myself to buy 2 strobes for the same price as i can get at least 1 watt of green 532 for. They are so expensive considering all they do is
    flash. I love the crowd blinder feature of them though which ov never seen on any other strobe.

    Iv found this
    http://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs...olesalers.html

    which I'm very unsure of as it's a very cheap Chinese copy but it does have 4 channel
    dmx and says it has a crowd blinder feature so sounds similar to the atomic but cheaper and lower quality.

    Iv also found this
    http://shop.etsnet.co.uk/prolight-th...robe-153-p.asp

    it looks better quality than the other one but I'm very concerned as it only has a flash rate up to 15 per second so doesn't sound like it has the blinder feature which I love.

    Don't know at the moment as I ultimatly want the atomic but I think it's stupidly over priced as is all martin equipment.

    Ollie

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    Ummmm sorry for the double thread but iv just found an exact copy of the
    martin atomic on this website

    http://www.chinesedepartmentstore.com/

    it's item number 5398 (sorry my browser won't let me copy the link properly.

    I'm shocked at how much it's an exact copy of the martin version. In fact not only is the unit the same but it's got all the decals on and even is comparable with the martin destroyer lighting controller

    WTF?????

    Can anyone offer any way this is possible cause I don't want to get ripped off if this is false information

    ollie
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    Default strobes and hazers

    I have the Atomic Strobe, its highly recommended! , definately kicks ass!

    BTW, im also looking into a new hazer, and the choices are :

    Martin K1
    Le'maitre / Radiance

    has anybody got any experience with both of these hazers? which one is better??
    right now , i have the Martin ZR33, good fogger , especially for the price.....

    sooo,,, which one would you buy? between the Martin K1 or the Le'Maitre Radiance ????
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    This is some info about the strobe

    Atomic 3000w Strobe Light W/ DMX
    Model:
    CDS-S9-3000X
    Item:
    5398

    Wholesale price
    *GBP114.97*




    GBP114.97

    **Ask question about this product

    Item Description




    In this offer,you are buying*1 unit at once.

    This Product is available in 240v or 110v.




















    SPECIFICATIONS

    Thermal:
    Maximum ambient temperature: 40C (104F).

    Control And Programming:
    DMX-512 (1990) control: 1, 3, and 4 channel modes.
    Data pinout: 3-pin XLR - pin 1 shield, pin 2 cold (-), pin 3 hot (+).
    Compatible remote controls: Martin MC-1 and Detonator.
    Stand-alone control: via N.O. or N.C. SPST switch.
    Stand-alone options: selectable flash rate or blinder effect.

    AC Supply:
    AC input: 2.5 mm2 trailing cable.
    AC voltage and frequency range (XOP 7-OF model): 90 - 260 V, 50 - 60 Hz.
    AC voltage and frequency range (XOP 15-OF model): 125 - 260 V, 50 - 60 Hz.
    Peak current consumption: 33 A.
    Typical current consumption (XOP 15-OF, high power mode): 8 A.

    Fuses:
    Primary fuse: 20 AT / 250 V, P/N 05020040.

    Construction:
    Housing: steel.
    Finish: electrostatic powder coating.

    Installation:
    Minimum distance to combustible materials: 0.5 m (20 in).
    Minimum distance to illuminated surfaces: 1 m (39 in).
    Minimum clearance around fan and air vents: 0.1 m (4 in).

    Accessories:
    Atomic Detonator: 90760020.
    MC-1 Controller,EU: 90718000.
    MC-1 Controller,US: 90718100.
    G-clamp: 91602003.
    Half-coupler clamp: 91602005.

    If you buy more, the price will cheaper.

    Click here

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    I have a couple of these Ollie, they have been trouble free and run from a 16A 240v supply.


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    Have you seen the postage costs CDS charge?

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    yes they do charge alot mate but if you look. a martin atomic strobe costs 600. on cds they do 4 of these atomic 3000 strobes for 600 shipping is then 400 so that makes 1000 if i was to buy 4 martin atomics it would cost 2400
    2 x 10w full colour laser systems
    2 x 4w full colour laser systems
    2 x 3w full colour laser systems
    1 450mw pinkem rgb 30k scanner
    2 x 1 watt green laser
    4 x 1 watt blue 445nm laser systems
    3 watt rgb .

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