Compare these 2 Projectors!

[onsatmex5]

If you had a choice what one would you choose and why? Both will have all the legal US requirements for use.



http://x-laser.com/displaylaser.fwx?...aser=v06X234J5

And

http://www.synchrovision.co.uk/produ...canners-35kpps

[gabe]

Well, i'm not sure if the kvant one is FDA Certified yet, but the x-laser deff is, kvant one is really profesional, and the x-beam was designed for the mobile dj, but the prices show it.

In the end its what you want.

[GT500]

Both are good projectors... i would choose the kvant for the 637nm red module and the higher spec Cambridge scanners. we have 4 kvant's and they have been really reliable.

i checked the x-laser website and it says there have been updates for 2012 but not sure if that includes moving away from 650nm red and faster scanners, the 2011 model uses 15k scanners.
As Gabe says i don't think the kvant is FDA certified, as ours do not have a mechanical shutter or optics cover safety interlocks for example.

[onsatmex5]

Hey thanks I am new to laser projectors, I am just trying to learn as much as I can...there is so much to learn...LoL

[carlos3621]

You can purchase a CDRH/FDA certified Kvant projector today, from gkphotonics.com

[DanG]

Carlos,

I don't think that the are indeed certified yet. I know George was working on them but I am unable to find a variance posted for any Kvant model and until that happens they are not allowed to be introduced into commerce. Please correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty sure they are not there yet and they aren't listed on the site.

As for the comparison, there really isn't one because this is kind of a classic apples/oranges situation. The Kvant piece is a traditional laser projector with great graphics scanners offering the flexibility of doing both decent beams and good graphics. Our piece is really designed to to one thing well which is to be bright as hell for beam work and in that department it will knock the socks off of the Kvant especially in the first 150' or so. If you want to do graphics, a better comparison would be with our Skywriter line as that is MUCH closer to the Kvant than the X-Beam. In any case Kvant makes a great product notwithstanding the issues people have been posting about as of late and they charge an appropriate price for it. Ours is much less expensive and does a few things very well but is not nearly as flexible as the Spectrum. Hope that helps!

[dave]

Umm,

You say Bright as hell? What are you doing different from Kvant?

[DanG]

I do say bright as hell, yes. As for what we are doing differently the answer is a great many things.

X-Laser has done well because, in part, we have challenged the conventional assumptions about laser and approached our technological choices with an 'uneducated' eye. For example, projectors like the Spectrum use really fast and highly accurate CT scanners. Never would I diss that choice and indeed that is what most laserists think they want. It is a reasonable, conventional choice.

However, our choice to use 15K scanners in the X-Beam series and tune them as we do is not a choice we made to lower the cost by using a 'lesser' scanner, it is a choice we made to improve the intended performance of the product toward a particular goal. First, the scanners we use are not el-cheapos, we use the best components we can find that fit the need. Then there is the question of 'better.' Better is relative to one's desired outcome so if you want to do great graphics, you definitely want CT's or DT's or whatever. If you want to do great beams and have a really stable lifetime, using slower speeds both improves the effect and generates less heat thereby reducing material fatigue and extending the life of the galvos. I don't know how many thousands of galvo based units we have in the field and but our failure rate on them hovers around one 1/10th of 1%, ever. Within the warranty period the failure rate is 0%. I am confident that few if any larger manufacturers could truthfully say the same.

Just because Kvant makes a great projector does not mean that someone else cannot make difference choices and easily top it in one or more metrics. If you always make the same (or similar) choices you will always get what you have always gotten.

[onsatmex5]

I assume these are the links for Getting a Radiation Emitting Product to Market >> http://www.fda.gov/Radiation-Emittin.../default.htm#3

And for Electronically submitting any Radiation Emitting Product to the FDA I guess this link will help >> http://www.fda.gov/downloads/ForIndu.../UCM162419.pdf

I think I have been doing toooo much reading about entertainment lasers LOL

[White-Light]

Our piece is really designed to to one thing well which is to be bright as hell for beam work and in that department it will knock the socks off of the Kvant especially in the first 150' or so.

Whereas you produce very good certified projectors I too would like to see that proven along with Dave.

I also wonder how 15K scanners deal with flicker better than 30K. Accepting that 15K can have greater perceived brightness, surely the downside is greater flicker?