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    krazer,
    This project involves several different and simultaneous parts. There is the basic design philosophy, the optical layout and components, the procurement, the electrical drivers and control as well as the support deck/case. The design choices are still being made, but they are more like good, better, best. And because money is an object ,the cost as well as repeatable/reliable sources influence the design along with performance and this has to be done at the same time. Although not certain, end pumping is likely going to be the choice because M2 is pretty important. And $500, while not cheap it is not too bad for a very symmetric and efficiently mode coupled 7W.

    I am still not sure I understand the pump diode polarization problem. In all of the papers that we have referenced to date the fiber pumps are not specified, but I suspect the the higher powered pumps are using fiber bundles which will scramble polarization pretty quickly. The differential absorption coefficient for the favorable vs. the unfavorable polarization at 808nm is roughly a factor of two while the absorption coefficient at 888 although nearly equal for both polarizations is 20 times lower. The result is greater penetration depth. Greater penetration depth should produce less localized surface heating and the small increase in absorption depth should not require a longer crystal as long as we stay at 808nm. Diffusion bonding, Gd and dual end pumping are all options to mitigate this lensing and we are looking at all of these.

    I have always been fascinated with running these things at low temps. Are you doing work similar to what Snake Creak has published with Yb and 941nm pumps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcDevilz View Post
    I offered up early on to assist in some Solidworks designing and also CNC time as well. To premature possibly for this but I am waiting on the sidelines.

    Ivan
    Ivan, hang in there, I'm in Atlanta for family this weekend... Driving back soon. When I get home to Ohio this week all heck is going to break loose as I power up one diode and get my block of test vandate to lase.Optics are inbound , enough for me to test at 1064... I'll need to lathe some adapters from 7 and 10 mm optics to 25 mm mounts. I have the 25 mm stock, so no problem there. I have a nice HP supply with constant current mode and no spikes. We'll need to order the optics in the ref paper soon. Most of them are stock radius, but the coatings are a bit unique.

    I should scan and post the diode response curves late Sunday night EST...


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    out of curiosity, is 880nm in YAG pump bands?

    I have an AVIA YAG rod in its mount which is approx. 30mm long, and I'd like to put it to use... this cavity design could be nice, and easier than a ring cavity I would never have been able to build

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    88X Is a "Direct to Upper Lasing Level" pump for YVo4. It has advantages in certain applications for reduced thermal lensing, reduced polarization issues etc. But it has a disadvantage end pumped, short, cavities in that you need a longer distance for it to be adsorbed by the rod.

    Higher power lasers and some lab gear are rapidly shifting to 88X

    Is your rod Vandate or YAG? It matters... Yag has a very narrow pump band, about 1.5-2 nm wide at the 808 region. So the diode for YAG must be carefully picked. 888 does not easily apply for Yag...

    Assuming a 30 mm rod will run in a cavity designed for a ~10 mm vandate is quite a stretch...
    The thermal lensing can be very different, and you may/will have issues with adsorption losses at 1064 in such a long rod, if you only pump one end.

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    It's even a 40mm one as the TEC is 40mm and the rod is the same length, in trapezoidal mount glued to the TEC... it was from a coherent AVIA but I cant find the material from AVIA documentation at first sight... I might consider Z-fold with the KTP/OC at one arm?

    would you think I'd better sell it than use it?

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    I got ahold of this guy, it was a chinese prototype for a local company. End cavity optics and mounts are missing but the Q-switch, rod, pump optics, and the fold mirrors are all still there. The crystal is about 3mm square and about 20mm long. Its wrapped in indium in the water cooled heatsink, it looked bluish in the halide lighting, dont know what it is. The pump optics are fed with SMA-905 fibers. I have some 800um SMA 905 cables and some FAP modules I could pump them with (All centered around 808nm). I think I have two new 32watts, one used 40 watt, and three 50 watt modules lying around. Still have not tested them up to full rated current yet.

    Think I can build something with this? I think the small 4 pin molex connector went to a KTP oven. I have a few KTPs in 3x3x5 and 4x4x5.

    -Jerry


    DPSS Yag laser cavity by macona, on Flickr

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    Macona, zoom out 20% or so and take another shot. I'm missing some info there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mixedgas View Post
    Macona, zoom out 20% or so and take another shot. I'm missing some info there...

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    PB, thanks...

    Lets go the other way, shall we? I need to see most of the frame/baseplate. I'm looking for where a certain optics mount would go.

    I'd also like a side shot, from the the PCB side of the cavity . I'm trying to figure out something they did that just does not look right.

    So far I see a Z fold with a AO_QSwitch and a double ended pumping scheme on the rod. A chunk of KTP is up at the top.

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    I took a quick pic of the whole thing. You can see the beam path is scribed in the baseplate if you go to the full size version. Ill get some better pics when I get it home.

    Here is is, I have annotated it as well as drawn out the beam path.

    Here are my best guesses what went where:
    A HR 1064
    B, F, G Turn mirrors
    C Beam splitter, HR at 532, AR 1064
    D KTP
    E HR 1064 and 532

    Should there be a waveplate in there too? Maybe an IR filter at the output.


    IMG_1646 annot by macona, on Flickr

    I got a new SHG with a peltier for temp control. Looks like it was a spare part for a New Wave Research laser. Dont know what it is, KTP or what.


    IMG_3123 by macona, on Flickr

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