Mistakes and apology's

[LaserCo]

goto post 1, you:
http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...tion-optics-GB

ML520G71/73 beam correction optics
This GB is for two lenses,
First lens/objective Lens "plano-concave" -9.7 EFL 20mm Tall 10mm Wide
Second Lens/Image Lens "plano-convex" 60mm EFL 32mm Tall 30mm Wide
Made from BK7 optical Glass
AR coated for 350-700nm
Price is 47$ for the set lenses, plus postage to you from USA MI.

in your sale thread you state:
"14 sets of 638nm correction optics. 40$ per set"
I think it said 10 sets to begin with, nonetheless..


Kiyoukan, you are not making sense
for one thing, look at the dimensions, if I had not seen that I could cut these in half and get two optic combos from the one combination advertised I would not had even wanted these! they are too expensive and I would had found another way...

so now you claim the combo of correction optics that I got with the group buy sendouts is the same correction combo you are using to reimburse me with for my flexmount loss.. even though i got another combo last monday!! I read it very clearly from your statement, was this a slip on your part?

you claim I am dragging this on real long? me? you have to be kidding...

You never even sent them when you said you would and it has been how many times that you have told me that you would be sending... And after all of this I get just one optics correction combo like was advertised in the group buy, you knew you were to send the charger also!
why do you keep on saying you will be sending me the charger and optics over and over then?

as far as the value on that charger, I am not being dishonest, I was at the point of just asking you for my money back instead and just getting it on ebay:
looky here sir kiyoukan.................. I had that on watch during several weeks of this!
$20 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=261209736697
so I thought I would be doing you a fucking favor and helping you even things out by picking thru your damned junk you offered in trade!

why didnt you send the shit when you said you would over and over, listen fucknut, I think I should be getting that answer, or are you still the king of your lil romper room here!?

[kiyoukan]

I am a very busy person.
More busy than i have ever been in the past, more than i prepared to be.
I never have a set scheduled, the only one i know for sure is my school.
I work 2 jobs right now that only work me 28 hours a week to avoid health care, and they are not set days or hours and yes they have conflicted but thats my problem.
Between those 2 jobs my school and my fiance of 5 years and having to share my car with someone else for 3 days of the week, i do not always have the time nor the ability to get things done when i want to.
I am in school year round till i get my masters because i do not like where i am in life.
i work almost 100% with cash and that can cause me problems right now as that means to ship i cant use automated systems as they only take credit cards so i have to get to the post office before 5:30pm.

And on the price of the charger i have never seen one go for that cheap, i may have valued it more due to the fact i had never seen one sell so low. and looking at that auction it did not even sell...

The original deal was "Okay, so triton JR charger and 1 set of optics"
After confirming your next pm to me was the following
"Hello Aaron,
How you been doing? Its snowing like a mofo here now!
Hey did you get that Trition Batt charger & Mitsu correction optics sent out?
The same Mitsu lenses that were part of that set in the GB remember!

It would be cool to get a tracking number now please.

Thanks!,
Mitch"

I then replied
"Hello,
They are the same lenses.
BUT they are only half as tall. (these are only the 2 cylindrical lenses not the diode lens just an FYI)
I was unable to find the original box for the triton JR charger but i did find the manual for it.
I Should be able to have them in the mail friday."

So to say i sprung this BS on you is a lie.

You then responded with "Hello again,
Kiyo, you said a week ago that you were sending the stuff the following business day that would be monday, now it is a week later and what you said is not happening timewise or productwise (Did you think I would not notice?)

I regained trust in you before and this time again I extended it stupidly in that you would be honest, I now ask that you send this off to CDBEAM so he can verify this and then send it on over to me.
......"
So you knew before any of this happened that they were half size and you were only going to get 1 half sized set and charger.

The deal changed from that in the IRC and you wanted 2 half sets.

Also calling someone a "fucknut" wont help any of us.

[swamidog]

kiyoukan has paid the money he owed me.

thank you kiyoukan and thank you DTR!

c.

[kiyoukan]

Glad to hear you got so quick.
Another one down just a few more to go!

[LaserCo]

Hello Kiyoukan,
first off, let me say that I also addressed you as Sir, leveling out the fucknut bit
If that is not enough then say so and I will say I am sorry on the next business day.

I have attached a pic of our PM's here to help you understand where my positioning
was in all of this. After one to xxx number of weeks I had again PM'd you asking about the items that had not arrived yet.
WEEKS later you joined the chatroom where you say that it was agree'd upon
with our cut down optics..it was after several inquires as to why they did not
show up in my mailbox yet where you finally then told me how you had cut them down - See the image below

Listen buddy, what is this?... we gave you the money in trust and because of us
you now possess them, you baited us into a GB, Ditched us and now come back
Switching the agreement around and wont give us them unless they are half of
what the original deal was..

Read the context of the PM conversation below, when I said send me two of those
sets I meant send me the 2 half sets PLUS the Triton charger, like you said you would do WEEKS beforehand.

(AFTER WEEKS of BS he sent me one of our optics sets cut in half on 05/13)
How about this, you send me, for my $20 still owed, one of our cut down into
half combination 'set's... without weeks and weeks of excuses, OK?
No? then what do we have to accept? The remaining $20 is still $20 right?

I wish earlier PM convo included time/date.....

[kiyoukan]

okay something is up here.
Not sure where as its 3am and im tired as heck.
when did you send that response?
the message i have from you after i told you they were half sets was this

04-12-2013, 02:45
The only other pm i have after that is on 04-26-2013, 00:28 and that one was about shipping Re: Dude?!?!

Kiyoukan have you sent anything to me yet?

Also every one got the optics i did not bait and switch.
It was the mounts that got messed up.
Those optics did not belong to any one but me, except one set that got left behind due to shipping error.
Again my offer to you for sending me back the lenses and giving you a full 60$ refund still stands as long as the lenses are in the same condition they were sent.
As you can see above i have refunded almost every one.
Waiting on some peoples PP but thats it.
These are the people who have yet to contact me
Fearless 10
StarryEyed 5
tonyaztec 4 (waiting on pm)
I have given back in full the money owed.
You act like im stealing like i have not paid back multiple hundreds of dollars to people.

TBH if you want me to keep the very first deal i just finished i hope the G-code for making the mounts.
Going to pray my WCS offsets work with my jig.

[LaserCo]

dude, i had that same question with Spec/Problem... are you reading these PM's from your Sent Messages folder?
I went back to my inbox and it all fixed itself..

[23:49] <LaserCo> kiyou had told me how he was cutting the lenses in half, 21 minutes later i said OK, send me two of them like that... the next message a week or so later does not show me saying OK, 2 please, and is timed and dated for 21 mintues later
[23:49] <LaserCo> i only assume, i recall the convo was pretty much with no lag, were were on PM's in sequence
[23:50] <LaserCo> I doesnt show me saying OK, send two please in the next message
[23:50] <LaserCo> in the bubbles
[23:51] <LaserCo> by meaning bubbles i mean how the previous stuff is encirlcled below

[kiyoukan]

No, i am reading from my inbox.
My head hurts, and im tired and now more confused.
So am i reading that the pm for 2 lenses did not get into the system after i told u they were half sets?

[LaserCo]

I dont see my reply ' well send me two of the half sets' when i view it from my sent messages, I do from the inbox though

and again i meant two half's + the triton charger

the way it looked to me was as if the message a week or so later was 21 minutes later and there was nothing of my "well two then'

[LaserCo]

These two PM's are between 1-1.5 weeks apart from each other
NOT 21 minutes as shown in the time/date stamping
Both are viewed from within my Sent Items folder:


the stuff did NOT arrive so I sent:



more clearly said:
1) he never got a reply i made to him 2) from my side it shows that two messages sent that are a week apart show - the later reply shows its timestamp to be the timestamp of the missing message