Sample metal band logo .ild files...

[hakzaw1]

Nice help James and all others- SELEM went by way too fast & I regret not getting you aside to show me more about laserboy-
I learn faster that way--

I will likely spend more time learning about SD cards than actually using them- But since the LK SD came with- its a need to know thing for me. Thanks again James

[james]

I would be glad to give you a tour around LaserBoy.

I'm usually available on Skype. You can video call me with LaserBoy open, sharing that portion of your screen so we can both see what is going on in LaserBoy on your machine.

james_laserboy

James.

[VibrationsOfDoom]

One thing: I was going to convert the old 2010 Space Odyssey .ild file over since it's in straight 2d mode... With over 2000 frames!!! HOW exactly do you convert those .ild files from 2d over to 3d? I could do it manually but I would have to do it FRAME BY FRAME for over 2000 frames! How does the new version of LaserBoy change .ild files over to format 0? Never got around to asking that!

[james]

Since I release the fixed code, the technique described here should work.

http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...608#post269608

Rotate space 90 degrees so that what was Z is now X. Move the camera in X a little bit. Apply that view to all frames. Rotate space back so that what is now X becomes Z again and save.

James.

[VibrationsOfDoom]

Okay, FINALLY got to play around with the new version of LaserBoy... This time I am working with some .ild animations that would not load up with Laser Show Composer. You might remember the 2010 Space Odyssey New Years? I tried re-optimizing that with the new version of LaserBoy. Zilda reports this original file as ILDA format 5. And of course for the record every frame is a 2d frame... So I dunno if it's the color palette, but when I tried to redo it (using the earlier instructions), Zilda crashes! Laser Show Composer won't read it, and I can't figure out what ilda format these files are saving to. Whoops! Actually, Laser Show Composer shows it as format 2, but will not display the files AT ALL... So they're not saving to format 0, I'm guessing it has to do with the color palette of format 5? Here's the re-optimized files, I haven't tried them in the Spencer laser so they MAY work, but right now I'm just trying to see what's up. I also did the cool 3d hallway and got the same problem. I am sending the two redone files that were redone with the new version of Laser Boy, but from what you've told me about the various ild formats, I'm willing to bet this is a color issue more than something to do with the way LaserBoy is rendering 2d to 3d...

[james]

ILDA formats 4 & 5 have no palette! That's really the whole point. Every vertex data element in a frame has 3 bytes for RGB right there with the X, Y and maybe Z.

You can open a file with sections of 4 and / or 5 in them and do a best match to convert the colors in the frames to the standard palette of 63 colors. Then when you save that, it could be in format 0 and the colors will be what you might expect.

ILDA section 2 is not an image at all. It is a palette that is supposed to work with frames of either section 0 or 1. So, by itself it is nothing that could be rendered to the screen.

I remember that 2010 show. DrLava did that.

I took a look at this one. The first thing I notice is that there is a fair amount of gray in it. I added a 64th color to the default ILDA palette of gray. That's probably not a good thing for what you need to do. So before you try to do a best match of all the frames to that palette, you should go into the palette transforms menu p and omit the gray. Use the up and down arrows to set the target palette to the default one of 64 colors. Move the palette index using the p or P key to the last defined value 128, 128, 128 ad hit T (capital) to remove it. Now, with that new edited palette as the target, hit B (capital) to transform all of the frames to use this palette. Now when you save it it can be all format 0 (since you already made it 3D). Make sure you check the status of option b in menu x so that you are not saving stuff in formats 4 or 5.

Thinking about it now, I'm not sure why I added the gray to the end of the default palette. I might have to look at that again.

Both of the files you uploaded are in fact all frames of ILDA format 0. The problem is that LaserBoy did what it is supposed to do. It identified the unique colors in each frame and made a palette (format 2) for each frame. Not very many apps that read ILDA do the right thing when they see format 2.

James.