Which Fogger/Hazer

[csg]

why would you stick a fog machine heater on a dimmer channel - or even a switchpack ? Hard power distro for me every time. You can use a switchpack to control output via the remote control socket, which is a few milliamps load only.

off course, we have the advantage of 230V mains this side of the pond. The 2200w heater is there to ensure that the machine can run at full output continuously unlike other machines that ramp down output quickly after an initial high output burst.

[CountFunkula]

Surprised nobody's mentioned the Radiance hazers. I personally own a DF-50 but have been thinking about trying a Radiance out. Please someone chime in on their long-term effectiveness.

I can vouch for the radiances. They are rock solid, whisper-quiet, and are at times, "too good"- you can quickly "over-haze" a venue. I have never had an issue with them in terms of reliability. While I agree that oil-based haze looks awesome, there are benefits to water-based haze. Some venues even prohibit oil-based haze!

IMHO, a radiance looks just as good as a DF50 but with better control (dmx for fan speed and haze density) and none of the noise.


The neutron is the predecessor to the radiance and they both use the same water-based fluid. I have a >13 year old neutron x at home that I have run almost every other day since I got it (used) a few mon ths ago. The only maintenance it has needed is an occasional cleaning. Have yet to have any issues with it.

[hitekvoop]

why would you stick a fog machine heater on a dimmer channel - or even a switchpack ? Hard power distro for me every time. You can use a switchpack to control output via the remote control socket, which is a few milliamps load only.

off course, we have the advantage of 230V mains this side of the pond. The 2200w heater is there to ensure that the machine can run at full output continuously unlike other machines that ramp down output quickly after an initial high output burst.

Because I use oil cracking non-heater reliant machines...

[hitekvoop]

I can vouch for the radiances. They are rock solid, whisper-quiet, and are at times, "too good"- you can quickly "over-haze" a venue. I have never had an issue with them in terms of reliability. While I agree that oil-based haze looks awesome, there are benefits to water-based haze. Some venues even prohibit oil-based haze!

IMHO, a radiance looks just as good as a DF50 but with better control (dmx for fan speed and haze density) and none of the noise.


The neutron is the predecessor to the radiance and they both use the same water-based fluid. I have a >13 year old neutron x at home that I have run almost every other day since I got it (used) a few mon ths ago. The only maintenance it has needed is an occasional cleaning. Have yet to have any issues with it.

Is that a heat-based machine too?

[csg]

yes.

only crackers use compressors. all dry systems, oil or water based need a heater block. Off course with most machines having on board dmx, this should make your life easier. The last crackers i stock ( the HZ500's) also have on board dmx, so again control is simple.

[CountFunkula]

I believe they both are. However, the haze is nowhere near what you'd consider "hot". They also both draw very little current (2A for the neutron IIRC) so whatever heater they use isnt huge.

here's the thread (w/ action shots) from when I got the neutron http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...hazer-ROCKS!!!

[hitekvoop]

yes.

only crackers use compressors. all dry systems, oil or water based need a heater block. Off course with most machines having on board dmx, this should make your life easier. The last crackers i stock ( the HZ500's) also have on board dmx, so again control is simple.

If I recall, the MDG CO2 units are compressor-less crackers. I hear the CO2 usage is minimal as well... anyone comment on these?

[hitekvoop]

If I recall, the MDG CO2 units are compressor-less crackers. I hear the CO2 usage is minimal as well... anyone comment on these?

heh, $4,200... I bet it works great :P

[csg]

i have a friend with a few MDG atmosphere units. They operate in exactly the same way as the phantom - using inert gas to push fluid through a heater block. They are also very fine machines, producing a particle size nearly as small as the phantom / dragon, and much smaller than the DF50 / HZ500 atomising / cracking units.

the build quality, gas and fluid usage is very similar between the MDG and the Pea soup units, both are first class, military spec.

[JD3]

So fixed my haze 2d. Blown 2A fuse on the circuit board inside.

I still want a better hazer though.

How does that smoke factory hold up outside? I have a new rooftop party I just landed and will need to pump a lot of haze to keep beams visible.