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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradfo69 View Post
    That sort of depends on who you're marketing to. These do strike me a bit as being "middle of the road" in terms of market. They're probably too expensive for the average hobbyist/PL 'er and yet, not necessarily powerful enough or the wrong source for the pro's that are all using 20-30 watt with OPSL. I'm not sure who the middle ground is. They look great and that's a lot of work to put together so the price is probably fair for the R&D and work involved.
    those beams look a ton better than what we've been seeing from our chinese vendor friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swamidog View Post
    those beams look a ton better than what we've been seeing from our chinese vendor friends.
    I agree. Their spacial filtering is doing a great job!

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    Completely. Those beams look TEM00. That's pretty impressive.
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    Wow

    I think I found the reason to dump my ions


    What is the divergence like on the red and the green and blue?
    would you be willing to post a pic or send me a pic in email of a far field image of the RGB beam *spot only* on the wall at 30~ meters / 100~ feet?

    Im finally seeing something fantastic diode wise and with quality that's not an OPSL or gas laser.

    Thank you.

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    Will there be three phase!!!!

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    hahaha thanks, well... I suppose beam is a bit fatter on our diode modules than your ions (but not too much..maybe +1,5mm), however you get better modulation and of course improved portability, power consumption, no water...this modules have driver integrated on a really small footprint, just simply apply 12V and modulation and here we go!

    Divergence: Many manufacturers say: "X mrad overall divergence" (overal?¿?¿? what crap is it?? we want good RGB overlap at all distances!! Can you tell me mrad/each module sir??...usually no luck, no info). Then, in practice, we find acceptable divergence on green (1,4mrad for example) but horrible reds about 2mrad or more (uncorrected chinese's). So, "good" RGB Overlap is only achieved at certain concrete distance

    We have thought about a good compromise between excellent divergence but "small" beam diameter...that fits in popular scanners.
    so we have finally setup each module to achieve excellent 0,92mrad (0,92mrad EXACT on each module) on a <5mm beam.
    As you can see on below pic, all 3 beams fits well on 5mm beam entry PT-A40 scanners (X=8x10mm Y=7x12mm), so no losses/clips ie all our precious powa goes to audience & having RGB overlap at ALL DISTANCES is a MUST (all beams share the same divergence)
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    Of course, we can go less then 0,92mrad but with fatter beams (on multimodes and specially reds), and we don't want to sell modules >5mm beam diameter, at these rated powers.

    Ok. we'll take some beam spot pics at 30m soon.

    Thanks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laser Wizardry View Post
    those beams look as good or better than any kvant I've used lately
    Yea.. The beam looks great! They are a little outside my price range.. but they are very impressive outputs.

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    1 question how are you achieving 3w red with 4 x 700mw (+optic loss ) i know my math may not be great but that doesn't add up
    so its either over driven or under powered both are not good for a laser that cost that much
    i would just sell it as a 2.5w and under power them a little

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    We have talked a lot here on PL about overdriving reds or not, at which temperatures and so on...

    Our reds are SAFELY delivering near 1W each, this is 4W overall raw power, +optic losses...3W useful red.
    Why we say SAFE at near 1W?? Because our reds are VERY well TEC'd at 18°C and they are pulsed modulated (DAC).
    However in our test, we apply CW 5V modulation (Lab PSU), for a worst-case scenario.
    Mitsus p73 specs is 500mW with CW modulation at 25°C, but all we know, they can go higher at lower temps, and even more when modulation is pulsed (DACs). We have a general consensus about this here on PL.

    So, we can assure, our RED module can safely run at 3w output, with a good life expectance. However, if you're worried about, you can limit module just delivering 2,5W max (which is also nice power!), but as I said, module is perfectly 3W capable with guaranties so its branded as 3W red.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VJ AIWAZ View Post
    1 question how are you achieving 3w red with 4 x 700mw (+optic loss ) i know my math may not be great but that doesn't add up
    so its either over driven or under powered both are not good for a laser that cost that much
    i would just sell it as a 2.5w and under power them a little
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    Quote Originally Posted by VJ AIWAZ View Post
    1 question how are you achieving 3w red with 4 x 700mw (+optic loss )
    Quote Originally Posted by jors View Post
    Our reds are SAFELY delivering near 1W each, this is 4W overall raw power, +optic losses...3W useful red.
    Why we say SAFE at near 1W?? Because our reds are VERY well TEC'd at 18°C
    At SELEM 2 years ago, PolishedBall (John Murphy) had a single red diode (Mitsubishi 638 nm) that was TEC-cooled. We measured 950 mw at the output, and that was after a set of cylindrical optics.

    We ran that laser continuously for several days at SELEM with no problems. John said that he had other rigs where he was pushing a full watt or more out the front end.

    Bottom line: with proper TEC cooling, you can get over a watt out of the bare diode, and even after optical losses you can have a full watt of output.

    Adam

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