How "non laser related" a question can this be?

[Bradfo69]

I don't believe I'm putting this here but, I sure as hell am not going to post it on Facebook. Just don't know where else to go.
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The last time I actually asked a stranger out on a date was 27 years ago. Yes, I've had a couple of relationships since then but, with one, she asked ME out and with the other two, I already had a friendship or co-worker type thing where there was already some familiarity and a mutual attraction. But, tomorrow I'm facing a narrow window of time to be able *somehow* not make a total idiot of myself and try and ask a stranger out and I have not the slightest clue what I'm doing. I'm realizing I have no game. I'm questioning my ability to even carry a conversation that doesn't involve work (or something goofy like lasers.)
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Basically the backstory is this... in a final meeting the other day with my bride for tomorrows wedding, (an older bride - 41) her friend came in who is basically helping her plan the event and I think there might have been a few minutes of flirt... if I even remember what that is. I'm not sure but, that could also just be her personality. They left a few minutes later and realizing I hadn't seen a ring, I quickly send an e-mail to the bride just inquiring as to whether she was single and that she was cute. The reply was, "Yes, she's single!!" I jokingly said I'd better get a haircut and make sure I dress a little nicer for work today when they came for rehearsal. We didn't interact too much during the actual rehearsal but I did quietly ask the bride her name since I hadn't paid attention the first time. About 45 minute after they left, her friend (Alicia) called me to say, the bride had asked her to call to let me know about a couple meal changes so, I'm *pretty* certain the bride is trying to help me out here.
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So.... tomorrow they're here for the wedding and so I have about 5 hours to try and figure out how to ask this woman out. I don't know what the hell to say or what the hell to do. I know nothing ventured, nothing gained and no risk, no reward and all the clichés. And.... if I DON"T do it, come 10pm tomorrow, she's out the door and I'll likely never have another chance and proceed to feel lower than whale shit for not having asked. I'm just so out of practice and, have spent my life becoming the master of rejection but, I'd kinda like for this to go a little better than that. )
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Suggestions??

[Phredy1]

I'm far from an expert in this department, but it seems to me like the door is open tomorrow to approach her and ask about the meal changes and if they were ok. Then maybe something like "Speaking of food, would you like to have dinner with me sometime?"

The worst that can happen is a no, and you won't ever see her again anyway.

Good luck my friend!

[swamidog]

you're a super nice guy. generous, good natured and babies don't cry when they see you

you have nothing to lose and everything to gain. ask her out! don't make a big deal out of it or over think things. just do it.

I don't believe I'm putting this here but, I sure as hell am not going to post it on Facebook. Just don't know where else to go.
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The last time I actually asked a stranger out on a date was 27 years ago. Yes, I've had a couple of relationships since then but, with one, she asked ME out and with the other two, I already had a friendship or co-worker type thing where there was already some familiarity and a mutual attraction. But, tomorrow I'm facing a narrow window of time to be able *somehow* not make a total idiot of myself and try and ask a stranger out and I have not the slightest clue what I'm doing. I'm realizing I have no game. I'm questioning my ability to even carry a conversation that doesn't involve work (or something goofy like lasers.)
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Basically the backstory is this... in a final meeting the other day with my bride for tomorrows wedding, (an older bride - 41) her friend came in who is basically helping her plan the event and I think there might have been a few minutes of flirt... if I even remember what that is. I'm not sure but, that could also just be her personality. They left a few minutes later and realizing I hadn't seen a ring, I quickly send an e-mail to the bride just inquiring as to whether she was single and that she was cute. The reply was, "Yes, she's single!!" I jokingly said I'd better get a haircut and make sure I dress a little nicer for work today when they came for rehearsal. We didn't interact too much during the actual rehearsal but I did quietly ask the bride her name since I hadn't paid attention the first time. About 45 minute after they left, her friend (Alicia) called me to say, the bride had asked her to call to let me know about a couple meal changes so, I'm *pretty* certain the bride is trying to help me out here.
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So.... tomorrow they're here for the wedding and so I have about 5 hours to try and figure out how to ask this woman out. I don't know what the hell to say or what the hell to do. I know nothing ventured, nothing gained and no risk, no reward and all the clichés. And.... if I DON"T do it, come 10pm tomorrow, she's out the door and I'll likely never have another chance and proceed to feel lower than whale shit for not having asked. I'm just so out of practice and, have spent my life becoming the master of rejection but, I'd kinda like for this to go a little better than that. )
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Suggestions??

[KANG]

The laser thing isn't 'goofy' it can be if you make it! But you are very passionate about it, and if she appreciates your passion for it then all the better, don't sell yourself short.

I'm in the same situation as you right now, haven't been on a date in a while and am trying to put myself out there a little more. I've been on a few dates with this one girl currently which I hope becomes something more. I'm going hiking this weekend with her so I hope it works out! So... if she likes outdoors things then try and do something where you can be exclusive with each other whether it's the bars/cafes/outdoor things etc, then that's when you can make a move. Try to make it unique because sometimes the coffee/movie date thing can be a bit boring in my opinion, but to each their own!

Good luck!

[rodman1369]

Are you doing Lasers? Put a sleek invite with her name in lights up on the wall! Or not...

[catalanjo]

Just be honest mate
Explain that you haven't a clue as to how to go about seducing her, and any help she can supply to that end will be gratefully received.
Women generally know what they want and also tend to know how to get it!
So...no problem ,just leave it all in her hands.
Cheers

[Bradfo69]

Yeah... I know just being honest is basically the best bet. And like one of the girls at work said last night, what's the worst that can happen... she says no. Heck, as I said, I'm used to that.
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The one thing that Alicia has made mention of twice is having my dancing shoes and while there is a perfect opportunity for that to happen this evening, a) I'm not sure which of my left feet I should trip over first, b) I manage the place and the awkwardness would only be compounded by knowing I'm on display to about a dozen employees. c) The only time I loosened up enough to do that was after 17 gin and tonics at a wedding when I was about 20 years old. I can't have the social lubricant anymore since historically, I tend to break out in handcuffs or, wake up in cities I had no intention of visiting. Those days are long behind.

[Phredy1]

I thought I remembered you saying you had a knee injury from your days playing pro football, and your dancing days were over forever.

I suck at dancing too!

[Bradfo69]

Gotta come up with a better sport. At 5'3" and 118 pounds, I barely qualify to be the waterboy for a pro football team. Girls like horses.... maybe I can say I was a jockey and got thrown or something. LOL

[Bradfo69]

Oh yeah.... and she's going to be here in about 15 minutes with the place cards so we can sort out an issue with them. Holy shit.