New format for laser shows - time to upgrade the show production

[swamidog]

no... you continue to be wrong and you continue to just project.

i have nothing against laserboy waves or waves in general. while they offer some functionality in the laser field for show playback and recording in very limited circumstances, they are stupid for laser show creation and editing.

laser show software and laser consoles do not export waves (unlike your claim). some laser show software will import waves for conversion into a much better format (ilda) but not for native playback and editing.

you completely deflect in order to push your misguided point.

You are not making the connection because you don't want to.

It's not wav that you have an issue with. It's LaserBoy wav.


No. I'm trying to point out that the ability to record any laser signals to a much better resolution than can be detected in the display exists, has been around for a very long time and is always being improved. There are devices available now that can do 32-bit at 384KHz. I think you can find a sweet spot somewhere in that range. That recording is going to be a multichannel data stream with the samples interleaved together. There's a name for that...... Ummm..... Oh yeah! It's a WAVE!!!

Something else that should be of interest to you is that there is no limit to the number of points (samples) per frame in a wave. In ilda, there is a limit of 65535. That might seem like a huge number, but for those very detailed long exposures you do on phosphorescent material or blue print paper, this is not an unusual number at all.

You could store any number of consecutive frames in a wave and get them all back in frames.

[james]

Probably best to let you explain the value of wave.

[swamidog]

yeah... i recorded a radiator show to a wave file so i could use LSX to convert it to a much better format (ILDA). exactly as i said in my last post

Probably best to let you explain the value of wave.

[james]

So you gladly use wav for whatever you want to do with it but anything beyond that is a no-go.

For you.

ILDA is better than wav, how?

Please explain that from a structural perspective of the ability of the format to transport data.



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[swamidog]

no... i used wave as an intermediary transport format because it was the only option available in the time frame i had. it was my last choice option. the radiator can directly save an ilda stream (it does not output waves), but currently it's time length limited. this will be resolved in an update.

i can't help notice that you always avoid the comments about your debunked claims of laser show software and hardware consoles exporting waves.

So you gladly use wav for whatever you want to do with it but anything beyond that is a no-go.

For you.

ILDA is better than wav, how?

Please explain that from a structural perspective of the ability of the format to transport data.



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[absolom7691]

i can't help notice that you always avoid the comments about your debunked claims of laser show software and hardware consoles exporting waves.

This has happened so many times in this thread, and others. It reminds me of a political debate when a politician gets asked a question they don't want to answer.

James, have you thought of politics? You might be very proficient in that arena.

[swamidog]

ignoring reality in a desperate attempt to be "right".

This has happened so many times in this thread, and others. It reminds me of a political debate when a politician gets asked a question they don't want to answer.

James, have you thought of politics? You might be very proficient in that arena.

[james]

If it can drive a laser projector it can be recorded as wav.

I don't know how to make that any easier to understand.

If you use that in any way to convert to whatever you are playing in the domain of wav.

You completely ignore my questions about the structural storage capabilities of ilda or wav.

I understand why. It's not technical. It's psychological. You can't deal with data unless it is tethered to ilda. Once you fully understand that wav is far more mutable and is playable as is, you are free of that. You don't want to be nor do you want anyone else to be.



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[swamidog]

i'm going to start calling you "dodge and deflect".

show me a wave player than can do *real time* geometric correction, arbitrary and multiple safety zones, color linearity envelopes, color timing adjustments, scanning optimization, etc...

If it can drive a laser projector it can be recorded as wav.

I don't know how to make that any easier to understand.

If you use that in any way to convert to whatever you are playing in the domain of wav.

You completely ignore my questions about the structural storage capabilities of ilda or wav.

I understand why. It's not technical. It's psychological. You can't deal with data unless it is tethered to ilda. Once you fully understand that wav is far more mutable and is playable as is, you are free of that. You don't want to be nor do you want anyone else to be.



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[absolom7691]

does any laser show creation software have wave *export* capability?