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    Not exactly Lumia, but we are attempting to modify a commercially available motorized DMX controlled D/G disk.

    The Lumia port is pretty good but we would like to swap out a couple of the other effects for a lenticular grating that gives a sort of "3D" effect, and also looking for a Fuzz effect.

    I've attached an image of the type of lenticular FX from one of our other lasers. It looks like it's maybe 20 to 25 lines per inch. It gives a totally cheesy 3D image, but we've become addicted to programming with this cheap trick. This effect is often found in really inexpensive disco projectors from China.

    Also looking for a good Fuzz effect. The Laser Fantasy projectors we were using in the 80's had a great fuzz D/G. Soft enough to layer images on top of, but didn't scatter too much light around the dome. Mike Lutz or Casey Stack once said that Floyd spotted a restaurant menu liner plastic that looked promising and ripped off a couple to use in projectors ha ha.

    I've seen on PL that spraying plexi with a light layer of clear lacquer can work. We are using some found stuff in some projectors now, but it scatters a bit too much light around the dome.

    Thanks in advance for any tips that might point us in the right direction.

    Craig

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    https://www.edmundoptics.com/f/cylin...udHpw1XRtIzl0Q

    https://www.meetoptics.com/lenses/ar...0YG5gD9z16nPBQ

    I know, a bit pricey. You could try cutting a bunch of pyrex rods and slumping them together with a kiln.

    You could try 3D printing or better machining a mold and casting the part. Or machining plexiglass or even glass and polishing the tool marks out. If you do any machining with ball end mills you should tilt the spindle to the work surface for a better result.

    Or you could do a Google search on: 'art glass reeded sheet' ;-)

    Fuzz, there's a finely pebbled glass used in framing to avoid reflections you might try. Another option is to rub plexiglass with paper to scratch the paper. The scratches will diffract the light and gives a light fuzz. How the scratches are oriented can give different looks. You could do it with glass, but would likely need to use a tiny dusting of corundum to scratch the glass. Different grades of curundum might be worth experimenting with...
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    You could just buy the whole thing from Technological Artisans, John has a module with two steppers and a DMX controller that fits in front of a scanhead.

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    ... you'll get all sort of weird and funny "optical" stuff, when placing pieces of PMMA or other transparent thermoplastic materials ontop of elcetronic coolers, wire-meshes or other regular (or irregular too) structured metal surfaces into an oven and heating them at 120 to 140 centigrades (PMMA melts at around 160 degC) for some time

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    Quote Originally Posted by mixedgas View Post
    You could just buy the whole thing from Technological Artisans, John has a module with two steppers and a DMX controller that fits in front of a scanhead.

    Steve
    Yes, I've talked to John on the phone and his module looks great, it's very sophisticated, and we may go that route down the line. We got a couple of the basic OPT versions before we knew about John's stuff and we'd like to customize those first probably.

    Thanks,

    Craig

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    Quote Originally Posted by VDX View Post
    ... you'll get all sort of weird and funny "optical" stuff, when placing pieces of PMMA or other transparent thermoplastic materials ontop of elcetronic coolers, wire-meshes or other regular (or irregular too) structured metal surfaces into an oven and heating them at 120 to 140 centigrades (PMMA melts at around 160 degC) for some time

    Viktor
    Thanks, yes, sounds like fun. We've played around a bit with that. It's cool, also the old airplane glue etc for lumia FX.

    Craig

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    Quote Originally Posted by laserist View Post
    https://www.edmundoptics.com/f/cylin...udHpw1XRtIzl0Q

    https://www.meetoptics.com/lenses/ar...0YG5gD9z16nPBQ

    I know, a bit pricey. You could try cutting a bunch of pyrex rods and slumping them together with a kiln.

    You could try 3D printing or better machining a mold and casting the part. Or machining plexiglass or even glass and polishing the tool marks out. If you do any machining with ball end mills you should tilt the spindle to the work surface for a better result.

    Or you could do a Google search on: 'art glass reeded sheet' ;-)

    Fuzz, there's a finely pebbled glass used in framing to avoid reflections you might try. Another option is to rub plexiglass with paper to scratch the paper. The scratches will diffract the light and gives a light fuzz. How the scratches are oriented can give different looks. You could do it with glass, but would likely need to use a tiny dusting of corundum to scratch the glass. Different grades of curundum might be worth experimenting with...
    Great tips. Thanks.

    For the lenticular FX we've ordered a couple of different small sheets from these folks we discovered on line to try out. www.vicgi.com

    They sell small quantities at reasonable prices. Time will tell it it works or not.

    Cheers,

    Craig

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