Originally Posted by Laserman532
sorry. For some reason i thought these pics where of you and your laser. Could you explain the bullet analogy as it relates to posting info about laserscopes? I don't think i follow.
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sorry. For some reason i thought these pics where of you and your laser. Could you explain the bullet analogy as it relates to posting info about laserscopes? I don't think i follow.
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That was in a controlled environment at a private event. He is not telling you how to make one, in fact that was to demonstrate how DANGEROUS it is! That being said the laser was then turned off and we were back to fixing large frame ion lasers, and other LEM related stuff. Pat didn't show us how to make a cobra yag, but he did turn it on and demonstrate it. He has his reasons for keeping some information to himself, so chill out.
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Laser (the acronym derived from Light Amplification by Stimulated Emissions of Radiation) is a spectacular manifestation of this process. It is a source which emits a kind of light of unrivaled purity and intensity not found in any of the previously known sources of radiation. - Lasers & Non-Linear Optics, B.B. Laud.
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ok, i am going to type very slowly so you can understand.
You need to be more specific with your post.
yes those are pictures of me, at a private invitation only event of laser professionals. What is your point?
"Bullet analogy as it relates to posting info about laserscopes" Not exactly sure I understand your question. (too vague again) Info...I have posted more info than I should have in regards to my local DJ needing info and not enough in refrence to the safety concious operators who use this gear. What I didnt post others have.
Since 1992 or so I sold 34 ultra ray yags and 4 cobras all of them to reputable entertainment companies. My customers require support, I sell parts and labor to get their laser to peak performance. I guess it is possible that someone with a vag-burner could obtain my parts and the majority of vag burner owners are responsible. I have a pretty goood idea on who isnt responsible. If I have the opportunity to intervene in parts purchase by dangerous individuals I would intercept. If you want to use that ludicrous argument...shut down the lamp manufactures.
Someone sold the DJ equipment (vag burner) not me.
I always say you cant argue facts, and you cant - FACT - a bullet, and a gun are BOTH harmeless until they are placed in the hands of an idiot. Screening of said idiots (training, variance, approval from FDA and soforth) is the stop gap to prevention of accidents.
Heroic- you are too smart to try to dispute this anology. A noble effort though. GM is not responsible for selling a convicted drunk driver an automobile even if they knew in advance...it may be unethical but not illegal.
If I had the ability to wave my magic wand and eliminate dangerous operators more than half would vanish off the planet.
Pat B
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Been there, done that, got the t-shirt & selling it in a garage sale.
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Actually, several car sellers *have* been convicted of criminal negligence. That's why there's a windshield sticker telling you not to drive drunk.
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*snicker*...never heard of it.
I would laugh at the sticker on the bullet...danger, hot lead
Or on the end of the barrel - Danger do not look in this hole
Or sticker on vag burners...Danger DJ in operation lol
Please cite the cases of convictions - i'll need a good laugh
Pat B
laserman532 on ebay
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt & selling it in a garage sale.
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I don't have access to a case law library right now, but be assured that there's a lawsuit behind every one of those little warnings they put on everything nowadays. Even the "OBJECTS IN REAR VIEW MIRROR ARE CLOSER THAN THEY APPEAR" ones.*snicker*...never heard of it.
I would laugh at the sticker on the bullet...danger, hot lead
Or on the end of the barrel - Danger do not look in this hole
Or sticker on vag burners...Danger DJ in operation lol
Please cite the cases of convictions - i'll need a good laugh
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dont waste your time, i believe you...this thread has drifted far enough.
Pat B
laserman532 on ebay
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt & selling it in a garage sale.
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But don't you love a good free-roaming conversation? 8-)
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yeah but this thread had some level of intelligence, we should move this to the Prodjallen thread, that thread went in the toilet at post number 2.
heroic, pm me your address I have a present for you
Pat B
laserman532 on ebay
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt & selling it in a garage sale.
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Wow guys relax. I see how it may look like i was trying to start an argument. I was just trying to make a point.
You are right. I should have been more specific. My point was that posting a link to schematics is no more harmful than selling parts on ebay or posting pictures in public forums with poor safety practices. You can regulate (to some extent) who buys your items on ebay but not who looks at the pictures. I guess i was trying to use your logic applied in a different way.
Look, I understand you are passionate about high power lasers. All one has to do is look at your cobra system to see that. Safety is very important and vag burners are fricken dangerous. Nobody wants to see some jackass shooting 40W into some poor ravers eyes or worse yet a pilots. I think thats pretty obvious.
The reason i asked you to explain the bullet analogy was because your posts seem to speak differently. The bullet analogy was pretty much my point from the get. I know you have a great deal of knowledge on the KTP lasers. It's totally up to you if you share that info. However, the tone of some of your posts would indicate you want to control all that has to do with vag burners. You can't possibly know what someone will do with ther laserscope (unless they state otherwise). So why worry about?
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