OK, this is getting out of hand. Allen could be/is a potential loose cannon. Actually he's closer to a claymore mine. But if this is the way WE are going to treat all loose cannons, We will reap what we sow....
Steve
Creaky Old Award Winning Bastard Technologist
OK, this is getting out of hand. Allen could be/is a potential loose cannon. Actually he's closer to a claymore mine. But if this is the way WE are going to treat all loose cannons, We will reap what we sow....
Steve
Qui habet Christos, habet Vitam!
I should have rented the space under my name for advertising.
When I still could have...
el gringo loco
Hey Karl! -
Hahahaha!... Classic tune...Originally Posted by Banthai
...but, I don't think you have to worry - DJ Knowitall, there, has pretty-well taken-care of that himself...
...I particularly thought that the EYE-SHOT was really something...
...here's another shot I found interesting:
..."10mW Chauvet" system with "LOTS of fogg" - in this FLASH PHOTO?... Yeah, and I'm George Washington.
Now, I would-say to someone in such a pretty-clear predicament, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5Snehl2bAk ,but somehow, I don't think that will even help... (cause, either it's 'he DID these illegal shows' (and is *ahem*ed,) OR, he (as he claims) 'had someone ELSE, who was supposedly-legal' do these shows, and is simply illegally ADVERTISING these ILLEGAL and highly UNSAFE shows, for sale... (and is *ahem*ed)
So, I guess I'm gonna have to just go with saying http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1rWwVPF3MQ , aka, "Later, Taco..." as I already said... Whadda you think, Karl?
Anyhoo, Cheers, m8... gotta get to werk...
Your Fellow Laserist/@$$hole (...MOST of us are, ya know...
j
....and armed only with his trusty 21 Zorgawatt KTiOPO4...
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Jon saidyes .... i think the trailmix says it all .... its just as if you have seen into the futureSo, I guess I'm gonna have to just go with saying http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1rWwVPF3MQ , aka, "Later, Taco..." as I already said... Whadda you think, Karl?
mixedgas said
OK, this is getting out of hand. Allen could be/is a potential loose cannon. Actually he's closer to a claymore mine. But if this is the way WE are going to treat all loose cannons, We will reap what we sow....
Steve ... i certainly dont want it to get out of hand ... but .... we have tried the serious aproach ..... we have tried the jokey aproach .... we have tried the " we will help you out " aproach ..... but the guys attitude is exactly the same as in his first post ... he aint listening
hes had so many chances and thrown them all away .....
I say no more chances ..... the guy needs stopping now
and yes you are correct hes a loose cannon .... and i dont want to be around when he goes off ....
many peoples livelyhoods are at stake .... one bad incident in the US means that legit Laser companies will be hit hard ( its not exactly great times for the industry at the moment )
you only need one CNN or Fox news report on people blinded by a laserscope at a west coast event ..... and we can kiss godbye to high power lasershows ..... i can hear the phones ringing now with " i would like to cancel the Lasers ive booked "
i feel very strongly about this .... even to the point that my sig is staying until something is done about this potential disaster
all the best .... Karl
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steve, you said it...you reap what you sew.
DSLI Jon - thank you for saving this "evidence" illustrating the lack of safety with regards to his audience.
Karl - Your signature is fine if you want it...but I do not want to be reminded of him when I make a post.
Allen - Your advertising, your website, your whole attitude merely illustrates that you are a menace to your audience, do what you do best and that is probably flippin vynal or what ever they call it. Just because daddy gets you every wish your heart desires dont think you are qualified because you are not.
Nothing you will do in the future will affect me any way, my greatest fear is that some young person will enter one of your events planning a good time and leave permanently injured. If you really want lasers at your events...charge a fee that would allow you to hire a certified professional company and shave a bit for yourself.
I hope that if you ever do injure some one at your events that you will loose EVERYTHING you have ever worked for and your family will LOOSE everything that they came to this country for (your father is complicit in any action as he supplied the equipment to you) . I offer you NO, ZERO, NADA assistance (even if you paid me) to make any piece of equipment you own work at any level of performance, and therefore I will sleep soundly.
it really dosnt have to be like this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaTP9...eature=related
Pat B
laserman532 on ebay
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt & selling it in a garage sale.
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First of all, those videos and pictures on the website right now, are not my work! Those are stock images from a online pile of videos anyone can use under GPL. I havent had time to convert my videos to flv (flash format) to post on my site. Jon, your wrong again! =]
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and so you are also guilty of plagiarism? Do you have ANY integrity?
EDIT 10 minutes later - is it really taking you that long to look up those two words?
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Pat B
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Been there, done that, got the t-shirt & selling it in a garage sale.
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Lasers aside, you should consider firearms training if you think that's how you're supposed to hold a pistol.
"TO DO IS TO BE" - Nietzsche
"TO BE IS TO DO" - Kant
"DO BE DO BE DO" - Sinatra
el gringo loco
...Oh, I see, now.. huh - so, then, really, when you said to LaserBen, there:
...about those '20 Watt Red 171s' (further revealing your level of factual knowledge about what you're doing... in your words, not mine...) - you know, the video you have as the background to your entire site, clearly-shown shooting at least one person in the head / face with a reflected-beam - - so, that's NOT your 'work'? It's a 'stock' video?? Sooo, then it wasn't reeealy 'given to you by 'that guy'? ...Then, is your entire site, and all the shows listed in "Events" (clearly stating ..."Lasers... by DJ Allen...") ...really just BS?? ...I mean, are you even really a DJ???
Ok, well, let's just stick to your 'other premise' for not actually being illegal: You .. 'had someone ELSE, who was supposedly-legal' do these shows, and are simply illegally ADVERTISING these ILLEGAL and highly UNSAFE shows, for sale...'.
Huh....so, then, you didn't actually DO these (illegal) shows, and... you didn't really "SUB" them out, like you said (...cause you 'don't have time, with skool, etc, etc..) - really, they are all "stock videos / photos"... Sooo, when you advertise '60 Watts of RGB' and '80 Watts of 532' - that's just, umm, your mid-term 'Thesis'??
Then, WHY you would even IMPLY such illegal - and, worse, unsafe - offerings, by putting those videos up - 'stock' or otherwise - on your site?? You see this as a 'roadmap to success' in getting your Variance approved?? Dude, forget the 'product report' - you're gonna get censured before you even get out of the gate! And trust me - they DO come out, and they WILL TAKE your lasers, with no Variance, if you try and 'argue' this with them - they will give you a 'Warning', you'll have 15 days to comply, and if you're still doing what you're doing, now, after that??
... this is not 'arrogance', this is not '@$$holism', this is not 'I'm jealous cause your buddy has a Greenlight (and I'm Neil Armstrong...
OK, let's just focus on somthing you DON'T 'dispute' (or, maybe now you will,lessee..) - I don't think you dispute that you OWN the Laserscope, (or the SP 164, so-you claim, another Class IV laser...), yes?
Ie:
(2009-11-02 03:39:05) PDJA: yo u ready to see the lasershow video i took?
(2009-11-02 03:39:08) PDJA: with my scope
(2009-11-02 03:39:11) PDJA: www.allen.dj
(2009-11-02 03:39:15) PDJA: the first vid
(2009-11-02 03:39:17) PDJA: in the middle
(2009-11-02 03:43:29) SPEC: Im sure that had a variance.
(2009-11-02 03:43:37) PDJA: LOL
(2009-11-02 03:43:41) PDJA: its my laserscope
...Ok, please help us understand, HOW, exactly, you reconcile this 'admission' with, #1, 'I don't actually DO the shows'? (as you state it was either 'someone else' or, it's 'stock photos/video') ; and, more 'cut and dry', the LAW?: (I'll throw in a dash of Red to help with the ADD, ok?...)
Laser projectors and laser light shows are “demonstration laser products” as defined by 21 CFR 1040.10(b)(13):
“Demonstration laser product means a laser product manufactured, designed, intended, or promoted for purposes of demonstration, entertainment, advertising display, or artistic composition.”
Lasers promoted for entertainment purposes or amusement also meet FDA’s definition for “demonstration laser products.”
Laser products promoted for demonstration purposes are limited to hazard Class IIIa by FDA regulation 21 CFR 1040.11(c). This means that pointers are limited to 5 milliwatts output power in the visible wavelength range from 400 to 710 nanometers. There are also limits for any invisible wavelengths and for short pulses. Laser light show projectors therefore may not exceed the accessible emission limits of CDRH Class IIIa.
Laser light show manufacturers must submit a variance request for FDA approval in order to sell and operate higher class (Class IIIb and IV) laser light show equipment.
Prior to using Class IIIb and IV lasers for a laser light show in the United States, the following documents must be submitted to the FDA:
- Product Report describing the laser projector,
- Laser Light Show Report describing the laser light show, and
- Application requesting FDA approval for a variance from the demonstration laser product hazard class limit of IIIa (5mW visible output).
These submissions must be prepared with either the CeSub electronic submissions software or the paper reporting guides listed below.
If you are purchasing a certified laser projector for which a product report has already been submitted, you need only submit the laser light show report and variance application.
Your firm can begin to produce laser light shows only after receipt of a variance approval letter from FDA indicating the conditions under which you may produce the laser light show or distribute laser light show projectors.
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OK, so - you, regardless of whether or not the show-work you 'IMPLY' is your work (potential Clients don't come to your site, see your videos/pix, and go, 'Oh, this guy is not ready, yet; we'll come back later, when he has his Variance...' they - as you DESIRE / INTEND - call you for pricing.. and, the PROOF of that truth, is your, as-of-late, frantic efforts to get help to get your 'product report-in' so you can 'gig-it-up' with your 'scope' in April and beyond - fact, period.) - is really your work or not, you are, #1 BREAKING FEDERAL LAW by offering / promoting those services, for sale (hire) on your site, and #2, you have admitted (well, boasted, really...) about YOUR (illegal) 'show' with YOUR (illegal) 'scope'...
This, Allen, is why no one, including Casey, is fully going to help you, 'all the way' - UNLESS and UNTIL you TAKE the duplicitous and ILLEGAL offerings - and content - off your site. And, effectively, 'disable' your KTP, by handing over the crystal, to, oh, say, Steve - whomever you 'trust' with it... I don't want your friggin x-tal - point is, NO ONE, is going to take YOUR WORD for much of anything, really. You've 'crapped in your own bed', and sorry, if it 'stinks', but it's your crap. I am NOT 'wrong' in taking this 'stance' and WE are NOT 'MOSTLY @$$holes'.
Adios, muchacho...
j
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LMAO, stop trying to pretend your the CDRH, cuz your not!
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