LivePro Beams

[Pangolin]

Im in Pangolin LivePro software, setting up beams:
i hit the max points on the tab (100 points) for the brightest, single color beam.
I measured the output of the beam ,,, 800mw.

Now i go to LD2000 frame editor, just to test:
I make up a single color beam, like i did in LivePro,
the beam stops getting brighter at around 200 points,
I measured the static single color beam, 1.6watts.

Why am i not getting full power , when setting up beams in LivePro ?
I tried going into LivePro settings, and adjusted the minimum points , from 200 to 400 , same results, so i returned to the original 200 point setting.

LivePRO allows you to make beams with a relatively few points, or "many" points. As one person pointed out, there are implications to our technique. For example, if you want to display two or more beams, ideally, there should not be a massive brightness change between steps in a beam sequence.

Also, if you put beams where Pangolin suggests you put them (on a "targeted beam zone"), then the "minimum points" should have absolutely no affect what so ever. This is because the "targeted beam zone" has special rules which say, output at maximum power regardless of the minimum points setting.

If you want, you can actually decrease your "minimum points" setting below 200, and set it to 100, or even as few as 4. Generally a lower value will make "single beams" brighter, but also it has other safety implications.

Pangolin -- being one of the most safety concious laser companies -- implements techniques which tend to increase safety.

I could write more, but I think that given what I wrote above, some experimentation on your part will reveal the technique you should follow for your own situation.

I have previously measured the Pangolin DAC's voltage output, and came up with approx 4.6 volts max, using LD2000 frame editor

I always hate it when I read things like this... Under all but one circumstance, the color signals emanating from the QM2000 will ALWAYS be pulsed (for many reasons, one being safety). This being the case, if you try to measure it with a volt meter (the way most people seem to try to do it... for some reason...), you will never be able to get a reliable reading. The only way to measure the color signal and get an accurate reading is with a scope.

Yes, X29 and Full Auto are far easier to use. You can learn these softwares in probably 2 hours and know everything they are capable of doing. But then, how much creativity can you have with software you can completely learn in 2 hours?

Hugo Bunk (famous laserist from The Netherlands who does shows for top musical talent and even laser-specific shows for audiences of 90,000 people) says LivePRO has as many switches, lights and knobs as the space shuttle. You're not going to learn it in 2 hours... But the power of LivePRO gives you POSSIBLY the creative ability to do shows for top musical talent and laser-specific shows for audiences of 90,000 people...

Best regards,

William Benner

[carlos3621]

Allrighty Bill, i will stop my sniveling and start my practicing on the software.. i just had to whine a bit!

[buffo]

Hey Carlos;

If you're really stuck on LivePro, you might want to contact Insanity here on PL. He put together a training DVD for LivePro that has been getting very good reviews here. Might be worth you while to purchase a copy.

Adam

[Pangolin]

Actually Carlos,

We have found a problem in this area after you wrote to me directly.

To re-cap for the others: I had Carlos do a few experiments and report his findings. After that, we repeated the experiments at Pangolin and now we are seeing the same thing as he is.

Yes, what we are seeing from the LivePRO beam system isn't quite right... Alexey is looking at this right now.

I have already written about this in another forum, but I thank you for writing directly to me.

Actually, this illustrates another reason to write directly to us if you have a problem. Carlos and I were able to do a lot more back-and-forth and a lot quicker through email, and now we see the problem. Within a forum, there are other opinions mixed in and it's hard to tell what is a real problem and what isn't...

Bill

[carlos3621]

Thanx for addresing this issue Bill. I'm looking forward to the fix for this issue, perhAps maybe being able to set up beams in livepro, that are not scanned/blanking points added, will be an easy fix/update