Belgium Laser Pointer Incident

[Insanity]

The person with the white T-shirt, standing 231 people from the left and 67 people from the stage is carrying a pointer. You go and catch him...

this is near to impossible with 20.000 people @ one stage.

So what happens if that one person starts knifing people? I'm sure they would catch him then...

Mark

[mccarrot]

So what happens if that one person starts knifing people? I'm sure they would catch him then...

Mark

Probably, but a knife will have a radius of only one meter and people around him will notice it.

Laserpointer have a range of a couple of hunderd meters, so you never know who hit you.

@ whitelight:
in this topic http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...?t=8644&page=6 I also asked about the use of pointers. But be carefull if you are against pointers people will say very bad things about you

Mixedgas allready had the answer about high power pointers: Phallic Symbol:

[White-Light]

Don't worry McCarrot, people are free to flame if they want. I'm entitled to my opinion and they're entitled to theirs.

Ultimately, I'm someone very much against banning anything as you've seen from defense of audience scanning.

However, I fail to see any merits to pointers at all. There is no practical use for them other than shining them at people and bursting balloons and ultimately its pointers that are going to see the end of the laser display industry if we're not careful. It will be pointers thats get audience scanning banned and pointers that gets all lasers restricted and given a choice between restricting the powers of a useless piece of kit to safe levels or a restricting the sale and use of lasers as a whole, I'd rather they did the former.

[ElektroFreak]

The person with the white T-shirt, standing 231 people from the left and 67 people from the stage is carrying a pointer. You go and catch him...

this is near to impossible with 20.000 people @ one stage.

What?? If your security can't go and do just that without any problem, then the people who produce those events have WAY bigger problems than pointers. That's nearly the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

If you can't keep an event like that secure, then you really have no business even considering producing the event in the first place. Given the kinds of activities that go on at electronic music festivals like that, security is PARAMOUNT. Unbelievable. That's dangerous on levels portable lasers could never even come remotely close to.

You talk like you'd almost rather have someone in the crowd with a knife than a laser pointer. What planet are you from exactly? You're just a fountain of ridiculousness today..

[White-Light]

If you can't keep an event like that secure, then you really have no business even considering producing the event in the first place. Given the kinds of activities that go on at electronic music festivals like that, security is PARAMOUNT. Unbelievable.

I've been to events of 2,500 people where everyone gets searched on the door for drugs. An hour later and at least 400 or 500 people are laid out in corridors totally stoned on drugs despite the searches. You're literally stepping over people.

This side of stripping everyone bare security are never going to find everything.

[ElektroFreak]

^That's right, but a joint or a pill isn't a light source. You can easily see a light source. You see the light source and you ask it to leave. It's that simple. It would be nearly impossible to ask everyone there who is on drugs to leave (lest you have a nearly empty venue), but the five or six with laser pointers? Come on..

[300EVIL]

Hey I got an idea. How about if the DJ just stops playing when an idiot breaks out a pointer. From there everyone will get pissed off at "that guy" and beat him to a bloody pulp.

[mccarrot]

I can tell you its extremely difficult to find the source of the laser by daylight on a festival. ( I tried at mysteryland, no luck)

At a indoor rave it's very easy, because you can see the beam very good due to the haze, but by the time you arived at the location you have seen the beam the last time the guy is already gone.

[colouredmirrorball]

I think pointers should make the news with some serious reports about the misusing of pointers. Maybe the "retards" get all of their three brain cells working at the same time and let them conclude - after several hours of heavy effort - that laser pointers/handheld laser devices are dangerous.

[White-Light]

^That's right, but a joint or a pill isn't a light source. You can easily see a light source. You see the light source and you ask it to leave. It's that simple. It would be nearly impossible to ask everyone there who is on drugs to leave (lest you have a nearly empty venue), but the five or six with laser pointers? Come on..

If only it were that simple. As McCarrot says, by the time you get there' they're gone. When I've seen people using pointers they very rarely have them lit for more than 3 or 4 seconds as most know they'll get thrown out if caught.