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    Default Has any of you music lovers ever seen the Archive?

    http://www.vimeo.com/1546186

    Its really sad, i watch it every now and then

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    Oh boy, that is really heartbreaking

    Wish I had $3 million and somewhere to put the collection.

    I still have probably 100+ albums and well over a 1000 7" singles in storage, most are from the halcyon days of the seventies, many are pretty rare. They too are probably pretty worthless at this moment in time. However, I still do believe that one day there will be a resurgence of interest in collecting original vinyls. I guess i'll just be leaving them to my kids as part of their inheritance

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    Just make sure you leave them something that they can play them on as well - I suspect that, even for hard-core vinyl enthusiast DJs, vinyl is slowly dying out, so finding deck / cartridge / stylus may be difficult in a couple of decades.

    Have you taken the time to digitize your collection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenalien View Post
    Just make sure you leave them something that they can play them on as well - I suspect that, even for hard-core vinyl enthusiast DJs, vinyl is slowly dying out, so finding deck / cartridge / stylus may be difficult in a couple of decades.

    Have you taken the time to digitize your collection?
    Well, I used to have some SL1200's, but they got sold. At the moment I don't have anything to play them on. I was thinking about getting one of those USB turntables so I could dump the stuff straight into digital format.

    Having said that I guess i've re-purchased probably 80% of my collection on iTunes Vinyl is good if you like to hear the crackling of a log fire in the background, it gives you that nice warm feeling. I used to play most of my 'older' records wet

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    Big problem with Itunes is the quality due to the relatively low bitrates at which a lot of stuff is encoded - if you digitise your record collection yourself, you can use 320 Kbits/s for MP3s, or even record as .wav format, and filter out the crackles with software. You also eliminate any DRM restrictions. The USB turntable is a good idea, they seem to be available at reasonable prices these days.

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    I think i've just succumbed to the 'modern' way of doing things. I have pretty much accepted that the music isn't as good quality and simply use iTunes for its convenience and integration with my iPod.

    Having said that, my ears aren't as good as they perhaps once were. A mis-spent youth throughout the mid seventies and early eighties running large, noisy mobile disco's has pretty much spoiled my high frequency hearing.

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    I once performed a little experiment to test how good MP3's are. I ripped some music and compressed it to MP3 using 256Kbit/sec compression (Frauenhoffer codec) and then re-expanded the tracks to .wav files and re-burned them to an audio CD-r alongside the original ripped .wavs. Then I played both the original source files and the re-burned files side-by-side. (My wife was running the player, so I couldn't tell which track she was playing.)

    I did this for 10 different pieces of music, and I was only able to tell a slight difference on two or three of the tracks, though I could not tell you which one was the original and which one was the MP3 that had been re-burned as a .wav. I could only tell that there was a barely-perceptable difference, and even so it was only noticable on two or three tracks. (I forget now if it was 2 or 3...) In no case was the quality of the music seriously affected. We're talking about a *very* subtle difference here. And remember, this was at 256K. At 320 K I honestly don't think you'd ever be able to tell the difference.

    I should point out that I did this nearly 10 years ago, back when my hearing was still good enough that I could hear the ultrasonic emissions given off by the motion-sensing burgler alarms you'd see in stores. Since then I've lost some of my high-end sensitivity, so if I repeated the experiment today I believe I would not be able to hear any difference at all. (I'm actually thankful for this, since I've also lost most of my sensitivity to ultrasonics, so I don't cringe when I walk around the mall anymore.) I think maybe someone in their early 20's might have been able to do even better than I did on the initial experiment, but statistically my results suggest that the artifacts introduced by MP3 compression are slight enough to be ignored.

    YMMV...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    Oh boy, that is really heartbreaking

    Wish I had $3 million and somewhere to put the collection.

    I still have probably 100+ albums and well over a 1000 7" singles in storage, most are from the halcyon days of the seventies, many are pretty rare. They too are probably pretty worthless at this moment in time. However, I still do believe that one day there will be a resurgence of interest in collecting original vinyls. I guess i'll just be leaving them to my kids as part of their inheritance

    Jem


    Guys, under what rocks have you been living the last few years? Vinyl collecting is a living thing, it's just that nobody has the money or space for that huge collection! You can get hundreds or thousands of dollars for certain records, I have friends who collect old jazz, northern soul and jamaican 7" from the seventies and some of those records are extremely valuable!
    Of cours your old ABBA records wont buy you a trip to Hawaii...but thera are others!

    Ten years ago it was getting harder to find vinyl players but now there are dozens of new turntables to be found, some with digital outputs, spdif, usb, firewire....and the technics 1210 is still produced!
    http://www.panasonic.com/consumer_el..._sl1200mk2.asp
    There are alos a host of programs to allow digital files to be used with real turntables by syncing with records enfraved with timecodes. Final scratch and Serrato are the best known.

    Vinyl just wont die!

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    Whoa...

    You mentioned Northern Soul

    I love Northern Soul Music, and I know there are some classics in my collection. I guess i'll have to dig them out and have a look at what's there. Not sure if any of them will be that valuable though as they've probably been well played.

    Interestingly, I have a Northern Soul playlist on my iPod... Don'tcha just love it? In my days as a DJ I used to do Northern Soul nights at the local youth clubs, they used to get absolutely packed.

    I remember once taking over an ailing disco night at a youth club (late seventies). The first night I did it there were probably around 20/30 people there. I asked the kids what sort of music they liked and told them if they turned up again the next week i'd play whatever they asked for. The next week there were about 100 there and I played whatever they asked for, which included loads of Northern Soul. By the third week we had around 300 attending and by the fourth week we were turning them away as the venue could only hold 500

    Happy times indeed.

    Jem
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    Quote Originally Posted by buffo View Post
    I once performed a little experiment to test how good MP3's are. I ripped some music and compressed it to MP3 using 256Kbit/sec compression (Frauenhoffer codec) and then re-expanded the tracks to .wav files and re-burned them to an audio CD-r alongside the original ripped .wavs. Then I played both the original source files and the re-burned files side-by-side. (My wife was running the player, so I couldn't tell which track she was playing.)

    Adam
    I did the same thing in 98' and decided to use 192 to save memory. I found that at 192 I could not hear a difference much of the time. And back then people were using 160 and even 128. I have been re-ripping all that stuff from those days because I did not have cddb lookup, or access to album art back then. Now at 320 and still using LAME

    --John

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