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    Default How do I choose Mirror size?

    I am thinking about getting new Cambridge 6215HB scanners. It looks like I have 5mm mirrors at the moment.
    Do I need to stay with the 5mm mirrors or is there an advantage going to the 3mm mirrors....what's the difference?
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    Scanspeed. I would choose the new eyemagic 7000,s. Read this:

    http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...anners-EMS7000


    Beamheight is 29 mm so a drop-inn solution and allot cheaper then cambridge ones.

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    Barts rule of thumb:

    With a typical orthogonal: configuration
    If you can shoot it through a M2 washer without the beam hitting the metal use 3,5 mm mirrors.
    If you can shoot it through a M2,5 washer without the beam hitting the metal use 4 mm mirrors.
    If you can shoot it through a M3 washer without the beam hitting the metal use 5 mm mirrors.
    If you can shoot it through a M4 washer without the beam hitting the metal use 6,5 mm mirrors.
    If you can shoot it through a M5 washer without the beam hitting the metal use 8 mm mirrors.
    If you can shoot it through a M6 washer without the beam hitting the metal use 10 mm mirrors.

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    well, to my opinion, 5mm mirrors (i.e. 7 mm width suitable for 5mm beam size) is easier to live with
    especially with multidiode red and 445 setups
    and the loss of performance is not so major after all
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    Quote Originally Posted by -bart- View Post
    Barts rule of thumb:

    With a typical orthogonal: configuration
    If you can shoot it through a M2 washer without the beam hitting the metal use 3,5 mm mirrors.
    If you can shoot it through a M2,5 washer without the beam hitting the metal use 4 mm mirrors.
    If you can shoot it through a M3 washer without the beam hitting the metal use 5 mm mirrors.
    If you can shoot it through a M4 washer without the beam hitting the metal use 6,5 mm mirrors.
    If you can shoot it through a M5 washer without the beam hitting the metal use 8 mm mirrors.
    If you can shoot it through a M6 washer without the beam hitting the metal use 10 mm mirrors.
    I can shoot my 2.5mm beam through a M6 washer, so should I use 10mm mirrors?
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    well, i can shoot my laser through any washer, more precisely through any metal in general.
    Should i stop using a 1kw CO2 ????


    ps. sorry for the spam, barts rule of thumb sums it all up very very nicely
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    Speaking for someone (me) that has the CT6215 HB scanners beam size will be the biggest problem especially when you start looking at the “cheaper” multi diode based lasers (as opposed to DPSS)

    The CT6215 HB does 60Kpps with the smallest mirror (5mm width to support 3mm laser aperture) as you increase mirror size the maximum scan rate will drop in quality as the scanners need to deal with the increased inertia, saying this though 99% of the time you’ll be scanning at 30Kpps

    The decision should be made on either what lasers you have or intend to use with them

    I’ve learnt the hard way that it’s next to impossible to get a cheapish multi-diode red not to overflow off the mirrors (especially with the earlier 635 flashlight lasers)

    I would heed LaNeK779 advice and go with the larger mirrors

    Some things to note with the CT6215 HB is that the scanner amps are bigger and may not just drop in place of the old ones, the scanner mount will be bigger and you may need to replace the power supplies as well

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    Thank you guy's for explaining it for me!

    So it's looking like....

    If I want a so called "drop in solution" I should go with the Eyemagic 7000,s?

    Do the the eyemagic 7000,s come with 5mm mirrors as the standard size?

    If I go with the eyemagic 7000,s can I get away with not having to purchase a new power-supply?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by onsatmex5 View Post
    Thank you guy's for explaining it for me!

    So it's looking like....

    If I want a so called "drop in solution" I should go with the Eyemagic 7000,s?

    Do the the eyemagic 7000,s come with 5mm mirrors as the standard size?

    If I go with the eyemagic 7000,s can I get away with not having to purchase a new power-supply?

    Thanks
    I'm not intending to come across as a smart arse, but if you are spending 'proper' money on high quality galvos then it would be foolish to try and save what is relatively pennies on a decent PSU for them. Every time the DAC asks the galvos to move, the amplifiers need power to make it happen, they need amps to make torque: Lame power supply = lame control over the mirrors.
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    Yes you are correct... that's not being smart a** That's being smart

    What would you suggest for a power supply?

    It would need to be small because the case is very limited in size, but also need to get the job done!

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