Question about LSX version differences

[BlueFang]

Looks like I am going down the path of getting LSX as my first forray into laser show creation.... but I am a little confused about the differences between the versions.

So obviously there is a difference in the number of projectors each version supports, however anyone care to explain what the following bullet points mean:

Basic: 8 target worlds per scanner, 4 Optimization parameter sets per scanner
Pro: 32 Target worlds per scanner, 32 Optimization parameters per scanner

I will not have multiple projectors any time soon (famous last words, huh) , but am wondering what the limitations are for Basic when dealing with a single scanner?

I noticed the shipping price from innolasers web site is unnaturally expensive - something like $40 to ship the software plus an EtherDream to the east coast. But, getting the Pro version plus an EtherDream would put me in the free shipping category... what to do....

[swamidog]

here are the breakdowns:


Version Feature Breakdown:

Lite:

1 Scanner, 1 Target world, 1 Optimization parameter set

Basic:
2 Scanners, 8 Target worlds per scanner, 4 Optimization parameter sets per scanner, MIDI control input, MIDI keyboard view, Quick Runtext Messages, Export show encryption options, external PicEdit, Save animator presets

Pro:
8 Scanners, 32 Target worlds per scanner, 32 Optimization parameters per scanner, MIDI and DMX control input MIDI keyboard view, Quick runtext messages, edit old LDS shows, Full export show encryption options with user locking, 3D pong minigame, External Picedit, Save animator presets.

i'm not sure where/why you're seeing shipping cost differences. Are you looking here:

https://innolasers.com/shop/index.ph...roller=product

Looks like I am going down the path of getting LSX as my first forray into laser show creation.... but I am a little confused about the differences between the versions.

So obviously there is a difference in the number of projectors each version supports, however anyone care to explain what the following bullet points mean:

Basic: 8 target worlds per scanner, 4 Optimization parameter sets per scanner
Pro: 32 Target worlds per scanner, 32 Optimization parameters per scanner

I will not have multiple projectors any time soon (famous last words, huh) , but am wondering what the limitations are for Basic when dealing with a single scanner?

I noticed the shipping price from innolasers web site is unnaturally expensive - something like $40 to ship the software plus an EtherDream to the east coast. But, getting the Pro version plus an EtherDream would put me in the free shipping category... what to do....

[colouredmirrorball]

A target world is a projection zone. For example, if you are in a situation where you use your laser projector mainly for beams at full angle, but occasionally want to project some text or logos on a screen in the back of the venue (maybe at an angle of some sorts), you can assign your beam effects to use the "Full" target world, while the text and graphics use the "Screen" target world. Each world can have its own size and geometrical correction. Also, bounce and mirror ball effects use target worlds.

An optimization or scanparameter is the same but for scanning optimisation. Using the same example, you can use different scanparameters for beams (slower kpps to allow larger angles), graphics (slightly higher kpps and more blanked points at the corners), rasters (very high kpps with special blanking offset settings), etc.

[BlueFang]

here are the breakdowns:


Version Feature Breakdown:

Lite:

1 Scanner, 1 Target world, 1 Optimization parameter set

Basic:
2 Scanners, 8 Target worlds per scanner, 4 Optimization parameter sets per scanner, MIDI control input, MIDI keyboard view, Quick Runtext Messages, Export show encryption options, external PicEdit, Save animator presets

Pro:
8 Scanners, 32 Target worlds per scanner, 32 Optimization parameters per scanner, MIDI and DMX control input MIDI keyboard view, Quick runtext messages, edit old LDS shows, Full export show encryption options with user locking, 3D pong minigame, External Picedit, Save animator presets.

i'm not sure where/why you're seeing shipping cost differences. Are you looking here:

https://innolasers.com/shop/index.ph...roller=product

So I am aware of the bullet point differences of each version, just not really what they mean in real world terms. Just wondering if only have 8 target worlds is a real limitation or not?

As far as shipping, free shipping (ground USPS) is offered for any order over $500 - which is great, but if the order is less than that, then what I saw was that I was only offered one shipping method of with a price of $41 (USPS Express), and this seemed quite expensive.

[BlueFang]

A target world is a projection zone. For example, if you are in a situation where you use your laser projector mainly for beams at full angle, but occasionally want to project some text or logos on a screen in the back of the venue (maybe at an angle of some sorts), you can assign your beam effects to use the "Full" target world, while the text and graphics use the "Screen" target world. Each world can have its own size and geometrical correction. Also, bounce and mirror ball effects use target worlds.

An optimization or scanparameter is the same but for scanning optimisation. Using the same example, you can use different scanparameters for beams (slower kpps to allow larger angles), graphics (slightly higher kpps and more blanked points at the corners), rasters (very high kpps with special blanking offset settings), etc.

Ok, thanks - good information there. I guess it won't really be understandable until I start diving into the program.

I guess I should probably just start with the Basic version, and upgrade to Pro if I feel limited (if that's even possible)?

[colouredmirrorball]

Upgrading shouldn't be a problem.
I don't think you'll feel limited, it's LSX

By the way, are you married? You said you were a computer programmer, so that's already one requirement to be succesful in LSX...

[BlueFang]

Upgrading shouldn't be a problem.
I don't think you'll feel limited, it's LSX

By the way, are you married? You said you were a computer programmer, so that's already one requirement to be succesful in LSX...

Ha... nope, not married... I've been told that women just don't fall out of the sky and into your bedroom... well maybe if I get a powerful enough laser, I can shoot them out of the sky as they fly overhead.

Kidding aside (I really am kidding - I really do not plan on shooting people out of the sky), I don't really need another hobby, but this stuff is just too dang awesome and i've got a bit of a break before my next large work milestone, so now seems as good of a time as any to dive in.

[dkumpula]

So I am aware of the bullet point differences of each version, just not really what they mean in real world terms. Just wondering if only have 8 target worlds is a real limitation or not?

In my opinion, a limitation of 8 target worlds is not much of limitation. I have pro so I can't be positive, but I believe the limitation in the Basic version means you can't load more than 8 target worlds into a single show. You should be able to create as many worlds as you'd like as they are just files that you then load and use in shows. Just because you loaded 8 target worlds in one show (e.g. using a bunch of bounce mirrors) doesn't mean the next show you create is limited to those same target worlds.

Personally, I have 6 projectors permanently installed in my environment with lots of potential targets (worlds) to hit, but I've currently only defined 18 worlds and 8 scan parameters after 18 months with the software and rarely use more than 10 worlds and 4 scan parameters in a single 4-6 projector show. Unless you have more than 6 bounce mirrors, you shouldn't feel restricted with a single projector.

<edit> Just for example, this show uses 10 target worlds and 3 scan parameters https://vimeo.com/61387416 Note that this isn't a great show, but as I am neither unmarried (currently) nor a computer programmer (also currently), my LSX prowess is limited.

All of this said, Pro and Basic both provide significant functionality and flexibility. Even with Basic you still can create complex multiprojector shows without color limitations and such that other programs choose to limit.

Just my two cents.

-David

[polishedball]

While talking lsx, Any time frame for the DMX build release? Thanks.

[colouredmirrorball]

While talking lsx, Any time frame for the DMX build release? Thanks.

Support for the DMX King (Enttec USB Pro) is added to the next update, that's all we know. No word on a release date yet...