I had a good time...

[ElektroFreak]

I'm not sure how many times I can say it Steve: I don't give a crap about laser pointers, and I stopped selling the 445nm diodes as soon as I realized how powerful they really are. I am not in violation of any laws at the present time, and I resent the insinuation that I am. I just want people to be able to experiment freely and build their own lasers because I have immense respect for the DIYer. I just don't hate on pointers because I don't feel qualified to tell a large group of people that what they do with lasers is wrong. It's not my place since I'm not a representative of the government, and I don't see a real concrete problem with that usage personally. All I see is speculation with practically no supporting evidence.

Also, how exactly is it a violation of the law to sell laser diodes? The way I've understood this is that OEM laser components are perfectly legal to sell, be it class2, 3b, 4 or whatever. It's fully operational, complete laser systems that cannot be sold without CDRH approval. Of course I'm no lawyer, but there are a whole lot of folks selling OEM lasers and components that do not require CDRH approval for their goods. Honestly, I'm not sure anyone here knows what the hell is going on with the law any more than I do, what with the number of conflicting statements..

Furthermore, even if some of my views contradict what the Federal Govt. says is OK, what's the problem with that? Are we no longer allowed to question the government? Sometimes laws are silly and unnecessary.

You want to know who you keep getting wrong? Me.. and the opportunities to get to know who I really am are all but used up at this point because I've stopped caring. After all, the only thing many of you seem to be able to see is someone who presents a threat to your established norms. I question everything and blindly accept nothing, and I think that in the past my commentary has led to some interesting discussion and fact-sharing, not to mention clarification. But whatever, it's all wasted breath anyway.

[dsli_jon]

Was it really worth it to type all that crap when you know I could care less? Why bother to take the time?

Cause #1, I can type faster than you can backpedal, and #2, yes, because your commentaries always seem to drift 'personal' / or-to questioning someones 'motives' or experience, etc... You'll note that the ONLY time I ever have-had anything to say 'back' to you is when you have *publically* questioned my (or, my 'fellow professionals'...) character, business-sense / practices and motives...

You are fully-entitled to have and hold your opinions and ideas / approaches, etc - but just because I don't AGREE with your opinions, does not make your opinions - or your assumptions - fact. And NO-one is obligated to accept your opinions of them / things in life/biz / findings with lasers, etc, as 'gospel', however well-entitled you are to have/hold them.

You know I'm just trying to get rise out of you...I'm trying to screw with them...

So, then... you're saying that this is all just 'smoke' you've been blowing? You don't really dislike me and all your accusations of me of being a pretentious, self-serving, anti-hobbiest poseur, with no real-experience at scratch-building, etc - essentially, just a 'valueless scab' in this community - are faked? And what about all the others you've railed-against? ...All just 'chain-jerking', to 'get a rise' out of them? Well, I'd be careful, then, cause it seems to me that when past-members have used the forum to intentionally-'fekk' with other members, that usually ends-up being a first-class ticket to GTFO-landia...

I think the solution to this 'sparring' is real-simple, Pat: 'For every action (or post) there is a reaction (reply) - if you don't like the fires - - don't light the matches.

Oh, btw - meant-to ask: Have I somehow missed your 'gallery' of scratch-builds / innovations / helpful-tips/tricks, etc from the great quiver of past-experience from-which you draw your many arrows of advice? ...Would (sincerely) love to see your werk...

j

[ElektroFreak]

Cause #1, I can type faster than you can backpedal, and #2, yes, because your commentaries always seem to drift 'personal' / or-to questioning someones 'motives' or experience, etc... You'll note that the ONLY time I ever have-had anything to say 'back' to you is when you have *publically* questioned my (or, my 'fellow professionals'...) character, business-sense / practices and motives...

You are fully-entitled to have and hold your opinions and ideas / approaches, etc - but just because I don't AGREE with your opinions, does not make your opinions - or your assumptions - fact. And NO-one is obligated to accept your opinions of them / things in life/biz / findings with lasers, etc, as 'gospel', however well-entitled you are to have/hold them.



So, then... you're saying that this is all just 'smoke' you've been blowing? You don't really dislike me and all your accusations of me of being a pretentious, self-serving, anti-hobbiest poseur, with no real-experience at scratch-building, etc - essentially, just a 'valueless scab' in this community - are faked? And what about all the others you've railed-against? ...All just 'chain-jerking', to 'get a rise' out of them? Well, I'd be careful, then, cause it seems to me that when past-members have used the forum to intentionally-'fekk' with other members, that usually ends-up being a first-class ticket to GTFO-landia...

I think the solution to this 'sparring' is real-simple, Pat: 'For every action (or post) there is a reaction (reply) - if you don't like the fires - - don't light the matches.

Oh, btw - meant-to ask: Have I somehow missed your 'gallery' of scratch-builds / innovations / helpful-tips/tricks, etc from the great quiver of past-experience from-which you draw your many arrows of advice? ...Would (sincerely) love to see your werk...

j

No backpedaling, and no faking. I really mean what I've said to you Jon, you occupy a position of real loathsomeness in my mind (or at least what I know of you does). At least I'm decent enough to tell you how I really feel. As I just said, I don't know of any forum rule that states that I have to like or be friendly to anyone here. If I want to repeatedly fill you in on just where you stand on (or in your case below) my list of human beings, then that's what I'll do. You had no trouble lumping me in with idiots and morons, so what's the trouble with me lumping you in with pond scum? Your "solution", as always, is for me to keep my mouth shut. LOL!! That's hilarious, and you wouldn't respond to such a requirement yourself if someone said the same thing to you. If Admin sees fit to "cluebyfour" me, so be it. You won't hear me crying. With you, I'll happily light every match in the book, even if it costs me my membership, and consequently costs Admin my contributions. No sweat off my back, friend, but throughout this discourse I've done my very best to maintain a level head, and I don't believe that I've violated any forum rules. After all, I only respond to your posts, I don't follow you around starting shit. Sounds to me like the only solution here is for both of us to shut up. Every time you post something about me, I'll be there to post something about you. That's how this works. I was done with this thread completely until you posted post #50.

As far as my own "gallery".. I don't really feel the need to show off my work (done with my LIMITED funds and experience) to you or anyone, but as it just so happens I have a thread here which contains video of two of my first projectors in operation just so you know that I both do build my own projectors and contribute here: http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...d+DAC+tutorial

Now kiss my ass Jon.

[dsli_jon]

Your "solution", as always, is for me to keep my mouth shut.

No, of course I don't want you to keep your 'mouth shut' - you go right ahead and type whatever you want - just don't expect everyone to smoke your opinion-pipe / accept your version of what is 'gospel', and when you stand-corrected with the FACTS about someone / thing, well, why do you have to turn that into a flaming personal-hateball? ...Oh wait, cause I'm loathsome pond scum, sorry I forgetted...

As far as my own "gallery"..

Nice drawings... really. Any more pix of your projector guts / builds?

Now kiss my ass Jon.

No thanks, I'm not into 'that sort of thing'.... I'm quite happy with my Wifes'...

ciao
j

[ElektroFreak]

No, of course I don't want you to keep your 'mouth shut' - you go right ahead and type whatever you want - just don't expect everyone to smoke your opinion-pipe / accept your version of what is 'gospel', and when you stand-corrected with the FACTS about someone / thing, well, why do you have to turn that into a flaming personal-hateball? ...Oh wait, cause I'm loathsome pond scum, sorry I forgetted...



Nice drawings... really. Any more pix of your projector guts / builds?



No thanks, I'm not into 'that sort of thing'.... I'm quite happy with my Wifes'...

ciao
j

I don't expect anyone to agree with me ever. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility to expect people to have a mind for how they respond to people who have opinions they don't share, though. If you respond by insinuating I'm an idiot and the next incarnation of prodjyou-know-what, we're going to have enduring problems like we're having now. I'm no idiot, and I also wasn't born yesterday, hence why I question everything. All too often in life I've run across things that aren't as they seem, and reasons for actions that aren't what they seem. Any time someone tells me "that's just how it is", I start questioning.

For whatever reason the links to the video in the link I gave you were bad. I've replaced them with working links. You can see the output of the projectors, but I don't really have any links to pics of the guts. Both of the systems shown there have been upgraded and installed in different cases. The green is in a modified 19" rack mount case, and the RGB is in an LKI LK-MC2 case, but all the laser modules have been upgraded very recently, and all the original electronics removed and replaced. The only things left from the original LKI system are the galvos/drivers. I only kept them because they work great and they're 30k. I've also got a couple 250mW green units now with 20k galvos in them. I'm still very early on in my laser show experiences, for sure. I'm under no illusions about that.

Now I'm getting off work, so I'm gonna go pay my wife a lil' visit (if ya know what I mean)..

[Laserman532]

Dang, i go away for a few days in the mountains and I missed all of this drama festival???

A- YOU ALL SUCK

B- IM THE GREATEST

C- IF IT ISNT SCOTTISH ITS CRAP

D- IM THE BEST LOOKING LASERIST ON THE PLANET

*laserman532 leaves the room quickly

Whoops Had to edit...

E- Style is not the way you pick your nose its where you put the booger!

[Stuka]

....

No specific post in mind - they're all starting to sound the same.

Do you know anything about Format 3?

Nice 'copter, BTW

Woops -
Sorry for continuing the detour, Steve!!

[Laserman532]

No specific post in mind - they're all starting to sound the same.

Do you know anything about Format 3?

Nice 'copter, BTW

Woops -
Sorry for continuing the detour, Steve!!

copter = charter

[MechEng3]

Some where....deep in the dark forest lands... a figure stands alone, impassive, and at the ready. The axe in his hand....primed for a chosen one from long before now. The keenly sharp edge glistened in the moonlight as he gainfully hoisted the cold steel above. Now at the ready to deliver the single final blow that will fall the skyward looming timber.....complete with logic spikes

May or may not be related to this episode.....anyone doing anything with lasers lately?

[Stuka]

Some where....deep in the dark forest lands... a figure stands alone, impassive, and at the ready. The axe in his hand....primed for a chosen one from long before now. The keenly sharp edge glistened in the moonlight as he gainfully hoisted the cold steel above. Now at the ready to deliver the single final blow that will fall the skyward looming timber.....complete with logic spikes

May or may not be related to this episode.....anyone doing anything with lasers lately?

Everyone is keeping THAT topic a secret until SELEM...!!!