Quickshow and Beyond 3.0 - WHEN?

[Datsurb]

Great news Bill. I'd hope you would chime in and give us some first hand info on the matter. Will gladly invest some of my time to help you guys.

Mail incoming.

[paulmo101]

Had a look on the downloads but I can only see v2.8 - just wondering if v3 is about yet?

Cheers
Paul

Hi guys,

Great question, and this plays right into a post that I was going to make.

First -- as what typically happens with a Pangolin project, it's taking longer than we originally thought, BUT it's also turning out a whole lot cooler than we thought too. This happens every time!!!

To let everyone know what we're talking about, check out the QuickShow 3.0 that we showed at Prolight tradeshow a week or so ago:
https://youtu.be/E6FWNyzFVBU

This shows the main things we planned for 3.0:

1. Native support for APC Mini
2. Virtual DJ plug-in
3. Support for scan speeds greater than 30K
4. Enhanced workspace

Well I'll go ahead and tip my hand, and tell you that point number 4 has turned into something much better and, frankly, revolutionary. We're tentatively calling it the "Pangolin Cloud". If you have QuickShow on a computer connected to the internet, you'll be able to access gigabytes upon gigabytes of laser animations and shows.

Over the years, some people complained (rightly so) about the limitations of the Pangolin Shows Portal. Well think about bringing the portal into the program itself, and then adding a lot of features to it. This thing is totally kick-ass and it's really going to revolutionize not only how people build laser shows (just instantly drag and drop from the cloud into your workspace or into a show) but also how you create and (if you'd like) share content.

Currently there are more than 1000 laser shows, workspace pages, and animations on the PangolinShows portal. (This demonstrates that people really like to share the laser shows and other content that they create.) If you log in you will see something like 27 pages of this stuff, but it is largely uncategorized and completely unsearchable, so you have to look through all 27 pages just to find something new... With the new Pangolin Cloud it's much easier and much faster, and also there are no pages (all content is seen instantly). It really kicks ass!

Despite the fact that this really is totally revolutionary, I think we'll have it out within a few weeks. However, we are looking for some help. The cloud is a new service, and so we need a human to help us "publish" data to the cloud. Publishing is really easy (really just one click on a cue), but there is some prep-work as well. I will make a separate post about this, but we're looking for someone who has time on their hands and a bit of experience with laser shows (someone with QuickShow or BEYOND and a laser projector) and who wants to earn either some extra money or some Pangolin products to help us to populate the cloud with initial content.

Bill

PS: If you're interested in QuickShow 3.0 just send me an email (not private message on PL) and I will send you a download link so you can start playing with faster scan speeds, VDJ and the APC Mini.

[masterpj]

There is a facebook group for QuickShow 3.0 where you can get the QS3 beta.

[paulmo101]

Big thanks - willhave a look.

Cheers

Paul

There is a facebook group for QuickShow 3.0 where you can get the QS3 beta.

[discothefunkyhippo]

Despite the fact that this really is totally revolutionary, I think we'll have it out within a few weeks. However, we are looking for some help. The cloud is a new service, and so we need a human to help us "publish" data to the cloud. Publishing is really easy (really just one click on a cue), but there is some prep-work as well. I will make a separate post about this, but we're looking for someone who has time on their hands and a bit of experience with laser shows (someone with QuickShow or BEYOND and a laser projector) and who wants to earn either some extra money or some Pangolin products to help us to populate the cloud with initial content.

Sounds like a ripe candidate for automation.

-Sal

[Pangolin]

Sounds like a ripe candidate for automation.

-- RANT ALERT ---

Could be. For now we like keeping humans in business and relevant. I somewhat dislike automated checkout counters at supermarkets and big-box stores. And have you checked out 411 on your mobile phone lately? In the not-so-distant past, I was able to say "operator please" and actually get a human on the phone who could tell what listing I was really looking for. Now? Nope -- automated only. Probably great for mobile phone operators who no longer have to pay human 411 operators. But not so great for the people who had those jobs...

I fear the day that humans aren't needed any more (and not because I fear "progress")... I hope people can see that -- certainly within 20 years (perhaps even 10), cab drivers and uber drivers won't be humans any longer. Check out counters (even in McDonalds recently) have already switched almost completely to machines.

Some people were never educated well enough to get a different or better job. And folks, raising the minimum wage is only going to accelerate the speed at which machines replace humans -- if for no other reason -- it reduces the amount of time required for a machine to pay for itself...

I sometimes think back to my teenage years, where we all worked at supermarkets and pizza places and the like. This was our first job, and it taught valuable lessons (things like -- sometimes work sucks, sometimes your boss sucks, how to deal with customers, co-workers, and the like). At Pangolin, we won't even hire anyone unless they've worked a few "shit jobs" in their life! What are teenagers going to do when these jobs are no longer available because they've been replaced by machines? Jobs like this were the first rung on the ladder. Raising minimum wage and replacing such jobs with machines only raises that first rung -- effectively delaying the time when this job experience begins.

What are folks that had these jobs going to do in the future? Live off government for the rest of their lives? Idle minds are the devil's playground!

Bill

[Bradfo69]

I agree. Recently I posted an ad for banquet servers and bussers and was somewhat specific in what background I was looking for and the number of people who sent in resumes who had no food service experience whatsoever was overwhelming but, I set aside those that had some of those "shit jobs" as you mentioned. Particularly a couple that had a few years working at McDonalds because, having done 3-4 years there as a kid, that tells me they can be trained. And they have some experience at those lessons you referred to.

[JohnYayas]

I got my first job when I was 13 and it was priming tobacco. That means I picked the leaves off the tobacco stalks ALL....DAY.... LONG for a whopping $1.75/hr! It was a great summer job, except for the occasion puking due to the chemicals they sprayed on the tobacco, and I used the money to buy my first computer (TRS-80 Model I). I remember it costing $499 and I built a wooden box to collect my money in all summer. As far as jobs go, that was pretty normal for the kids in my town. After doing that for a few years I was laid off for the first time because the farmer I worked for bought an automatic primer, a big machine that picked the leaves by itself. It just required a couple people to do what used to take 10 or so people. But, at least back then it was still the neighborhood kids who got the jobs. These days, I wonder if it is even legal for kids to do that sort of thing. You certainly won't find kids doing that work around here any more. For one thing, almost all of the tobacco fields have been replaced with big houses. And those remaining farms only have Mexicans workers. That leaves a huge void for the kids growing up in that town. What do they do in the summer for work? I have absolutely no idea.

[Datsurb]

Can`t speak for all others, but Bill is quite right in his sight regarding the lower end of the jobs. What we se in Norway, is that no-one really want to do the low-end jobs. Younger people also have expectations and attitudes towards this kind of work. Who is to blame for that? A good look at us - the parents. Our hopefull young ones, does not have to stand up for themselves, and that we, the parents, come running with a safety net when things dont turn out the way the young ones planned.
Just a few of the younger generation are willing to take on jobs, with minimum salary, and NONE wants to get their hands dirty. Letting machines do the job is more or less a must, if you want to stay in business.

I get so upset every time I enter a shop, and there is a bubblegum chewing teenager behind the counter not even looking me in the eye when i enter. Only thing that matters is posting to FB how awful everything is.

There are of course exceptions, but they tend to be handpicked to better jobs quite fast.

Living in a country with good social benefits, also have a darker side, and Norway are now "harvesting" the fruits.

[discothefunkyhippo]

-- CRITICAL (MARXIST) THINKING ALERT --

I encourage people to read this with an open mind:

Bill, at first it seems like you are advocating for people because you want there to be jobs for everyone, but in reality you are actually auguring against people and merely upholding the STATIST QUO (see what I did there...). By arguing to keep these low end jobs, you are arguing to maintain the exploitation of people's labour to make a profit. Most low end jobs are created by the Capitalist state. Someone might ask what about jobs that are essential to our society like garbage collection and sewage processing? There are enough people in our society to rotate through these positions so that no one person has to devote their life to working them. If you say this would never work, you can look to the US justice system and jury duty for an example. No one is a professional juror, nor should they be. I feel the same way about "low end" jobs. By forcing individuals to work shitty monotonous jobs, we are in effect create a caste system, poverty and inequality. Every time we buy a product that capitalizes on other people's labour, we are upholding the status quo of inequality. I am not saying that there is an easy solution, I just want to make people aware that even every time that they go to the grocery store to buy the food they need to eat they are supporting poverty and inequality. Also, by taking away these individuals time we are eliminating some of the possibility to seek their passion and manifest in the world what they and only they can do.

SHITTY JOBS DON'T BENEFIT HUMANITY. PERIOD. Sorry, but the "I had a shitty job so others should too" doesn't hold water. Just because you found your shitty job to be rewarding and essential to your development, it doesn't mean that others feel the same way. I have had plenty of shitty jobs and looking back, I would have rather not wasted my time with them. An argument could be made that I am not as successful as you and the reason is because I don't value my experience at my shitty jobs, but I think I am doing well and wouldn't want to live your life in the slightest.

What are folks that had these jobs going to do in the future? Live off government for the rest of their lives? Idle minds are the devil's playground!

We have created a world in which people can lose their job to a computer or a robot. TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY. You vote with your dollars. As a society, we favor efficiency and accumulation, but it must come at a sacrifice. People get so mired in their personal realty and story they lose the power to use their imagination to create any type of life they could dream of. I can understand why losing your job to a robot is demoralizing, but it can be viewed as a blessing. Now these people will have time to follow their passion and bring real value into this world. Isn't this the Capitalist (American?) Dream? Making money doing the thing you love? Why do we as a society want to pigeon hole these people into dead end jobs?

Living off the government? You mean living off of my tax dollars. I for one would love young people and people displaced by technology to live off my tax dollars so that they may find their truth and their passion and live that every single day of their lives, rather than find some other shitty job that adds no value. Not only will their lives be richer, but I believe mine will be too. We seem to forget that we are all in this game of life together, when we actually start acting like it?

IDLE MINDS ARE ANTI-CAPITALIST. We have been taught that anything anti-capitalist is evil (the devil), but when we people actually think for themselves and see that money is the root of all that is evil (Let's create wars so we can sell guns to both sides for a profit!). Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I think this is by design. Breeding self centered and self destructive workers to ensure that profit will be made. Also, who is it that really have idle minds? The people that struggle every day to make barely enough money to feed themselves and their children or the people that make money by having money and exploiting labour?

Some people were never educated well enough to get a different or better job.

Here is all you need to know from a formal education: You are capable of doing anything you set your mind to, it will just take work. If you are not a white male, it will take more work, but anything is still possible.

-Sal