Has any of you music lovers ever seen the Archive?

[dream beamz]

I did the same thing in 98' and decided to use 192 to save memory. I found that at 192 I could not hear a difference much of the time. And back then people were using 160 and even 128. I have been re-ripping all that stuff from those days because I did not have cddb lookup, or access to album art back then. Now at 320 and still using LAME

--John

Wow, not many people using MP3s back then. Perhaps you are one of the few that know what l3enc is? I was using that and winplay3 back in 97

[greenalien]

Vinyl just wont die!

Maybe not overnight, but there's not a lot of newly-released stuff on vinyl, and once something starts becoming 'collectable', it usually sounds the death-knell. Unfortunately vinyl records degrade a little bit with each play, so any good tunes that aren't preserved on some other medium will slowly fade away...

[buffo]

Wow, not many people using MP3s back then. Perhaps you are one of the few that know what l3enc is? I was using that and winplay3 back in 97

I'm familiar with it. I was using MP3's as early as 1998, but I didn't start compressing my own audio until '99 or early 2000. I've used l3enc, Lame, Xing, MusicMatch Jukebox (the original), Cool Edit, and a few other programs to do the early encoding.

Recently (a couple years ago), I switched to I-tunes because it was an all-in-one rip-compress-burn solution with integrated cddb and ID3 tag support. I'm about 1/2 to 2/3 of the way through my CD collection; I've got like 500 discs still to go. But I'm lazy and I haven't spent an afternoon feeding discs to the computer in a *long* time. (I need to though, if only to finish what I started...)

Adam

[dream beamz]

Recently (a couple years ago), I switched to I-tunes because it was an all-in-one rip-compress-burn solution with integrated cddb and ID3 tag support.

You ever read the full disclosure to itunes?

[wolfblue]

I was probably among the earlier of people to switch to MP3. Mainly because I had a two way audio and video feed from computer to home theater. And Winamp was way faster than a CD changer. And I could run the visualizations on the TV.

I cant remember what I was ripping with. And I just looked at a few old Mp3s I did back then that I still have, and they did not have tag info at all.

I did not like I tunes, it did not seem to embed the album art, but kept it in a lookup folder. And I tunes is just overall slow. I just use it to load Ipods. I use WinAmp free to play.

I was ripping lately with WinAmp, it has the good CDDB lookup. But a hard drive took my registration with it, and they did not answer my email. So now I'm using Bonc with freeDB, and add the album art with MP3 TagTools.

And when I buy, its Amazon.com with no DRM.

--John

[wolfblue]

Oh, That's Bonc with Lame and no VBR. I switched to Lame when it came out in like 98 or 99, and still use it.

And l3enc looks familiar, but I just dont remember.

--John

[dream beamz]

And when I buy, its Amazon.com with no DRM.

--John

Yeh, I dont know why people continue to put up with DRM, I love when someones device randomly unregisters or something similar. 12 years of MP3s for me, not one track with DRM

Oh, That's Bonc with Lame and no VBR. I switched to Lame when it came out in like 98 or 99, and still use it.

And l3enc looks familiar, but I just dont remember.

--John

l3enc and l3dec were dos apps made by Fraunhofer in 94 - 96

command line as follows
l3enc name.wav name.mp3 -br 320000

l3dec name.mp3 name.wav -wav

I still have these command lines because I actually still have the files since I have never lost data

[buffo]

I agree that DRM sucks, but fortunately these days I-Tunes is selling the music without it.

As for the TOS, I'm not worried, because I don't have I-Tunes set to manage the files, and in any case I've got them backed up on other media. (There isn't any DRM on the files you rip yourself.) In don't use I-Tunes for anything other than ripping and compressing, and loading my I-pod...

I have only purchased a handful of songs on-line, and every one of them was immediately burned to an audio CD-r and then re-ripped to get a DRM-free copy.

As for Winamp, I actually payed for it back in the late 90's, back when Llammasoft was still asking for donations. (All hail Justin Frankel!) Still use it for playback too.

Adam